Taiwan is like 0.3% the size of China. How is it going to launch any attack on China? :stupid:
yes because an attack by China on Taiwan will be with out any casualties or economic reprecussion..
… and to admit it is quite a large fighter (for a single engined one) as can be seen in comparison to the Rafale !
lol at all those people a few years ago who were adamant that its the same size as the F-16.
Also, many chinese have internalized issues of sovereignty as something that is a life/death issue, in part to the whole chinese-civilisation/exceptionalism ideology (not saying whether it’s right or wrong, merely pointing it out), and taiwanese independence is certainly something which I feel many in the country would be willing to go to war and somewhat bleed for.
But I wonder how the populace would see notions of taiwanese independence in 2025, 2035, 2050? That may effect how much suffering they may be willing to endure if the US gets drawn into the fight and decides to enact ASB on the mainland and its cities (and we can be pretty sure that civilian infrastructure won’t be off limits).
Contingent on continued chinese economic growth and social stability along with some degree of more political openness.
because only the Taiwanese are going to suffer during a prolonged conflict and the population in the PRC is totally fine with the its effects on their own economy and are willing to see their only child rushed off to war. yeah sure.
Lol hotdog, if you actually read what I said, it was more “f-35c may be trumped by any other fighter including naval j-21, J-20, PAK FA, or an FA-XX”. If you’re trying to paint me as a fanboy that wants to keep elevating “my” side above the rest.
It seems like your single purpose on this forum is to convince that everyone in here is engaged in a pissing contest that you are apparently above. At the very least you seem to enjoy accusing others of supposed ego stroking. Everyone has their hobbies, not your fault.
your claim relies heavily on the quantity of the aircraft, not the actual performance which you seem to lack knowledge in.
again claiming palembang/goldust’s claim as BS yet re-affirming their overall position.
how old are Australia’s PC-9?
its probably the red deck.
Most American ships aside from their super carriers, look incredibly boring.
in terms of good looking ships:
Russians, British, Dutch, Germans
The French ships tend to be either really sleek or really awkward looking.
Japanese ships, aside from the Izumo, are boring as hell. Koreans too.
Harrier was out of production by the time the decision to buy was made, & there weren’t enough SHARs to maintain an air group for many years.
Yak-141 would have needed a lot of Indian money to revive & develop before it could enter service, & India would have been investing in an orphan capability. That money would probably have been needed some years before the decision to buy Gorshkov was made, i.e. at a time when India was poorer than now, & needing a relatively quick decision. Buying more new Harriers would have been possible then (a production line still existed), & much cheaper. If Blue Vixen wasn’t available, they could have been fitted with EL/M-2032.
so in other words, had the Indians bought more Harriers back then or even the production line, you would’ve preferred a Harrier + TAKVAR layout over the STOBAR MiG-29K one?
I never said that X Y or Z would be the best naval fighter for the next couple of decades, but rather that it is premature to say F-35C will be the best naval fighter for the next few decades, because any naval J-21, PAK FA or J-20 (or even a USN FA-XX!!) that goes into service within that time scale could give it a run for its money.
Basically, what I’m saying to you is the statement:
Is just as BS as palembang saying J-31 will be the best naval fighter etc etc.
lol very blitzy..
“palembang/goldust’s claim of j-31 being the best naval fighter is BS!… but it could happen”
I already started new thread 🙂
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?126622-F-35-News-Multimedia-amp-Discussion-thread-(2)
just like the f-22, you are the first to beat everyone to it.
Do you guys think India made the right choice to convert the Gorshkov to a STOBAR instead of keeping it as a TAKVAR?
India’s naval ambitions are more immediate in the Indian Ocean and maybe South China Sea and Persian Gulf, where the TAKVAR format may be more useful.
instead of Mig-29Ks, they could continue operating SHARs (perhaps ex RN models), buy the Yak-141 for themselves, eventually upgrade to F-35B unless the Russians build something stvol again.
And they’re also in every city in the West. In France they’re 10% of the population. Yet they’re not starting revolts and they have far greater reason to.
Getting people to raise arms is a difficult prospect.
are you sure about that?
T-80U and T-90 were closer to 50 tons as well in full configuration (i.e. with ERA).
As for superiority, I’ve read that Chobham armour is far superior to Leclerc’s. Of course due to classified nature of this, it was speculative to a degree.
Also issue of autoloader which is not as quick or efficient as manual loader, not to mention risk of autoloader jamming. Though the Russians prefer autoloaders so they can reduce profile of their tank as well as reduce crewing requirements.
The big allied tanks all rely on manual loaders as a result.
manual loaders are only as good as.. the manual loader.
the Challenger has received few updates in comparison to the other tanks and its to the point where some in the Royal Army are thinking of even replacing it with another type!
the LeClerc was one of the first to offer new types of sensors that are now being used in other tanks, it also has a lower profile than most western tanks and closer on par to the Russian ones all while maintaining a turret bustle. Its no surprise that the Korean Pink Panther and Japanese Type 10 modelled their tank after the LeClerc
Actually I agree with Goldust here. The Muslims in the Western provinces are not really much of a threat.
Remember the Chinese could easily annihilate them via means the West would find unsavoury.
Also:
– Much of China’s land army would be held in reserve as war is mainly air-sea dominated. Some of these units (and especially lower tier divisions) would be available for internal policing/COIN
– There’s also a large number of internal security units. This includes the People’s Armed Police which includes division sized units transferred from PLA in the past.
thats why Goldust is not Chinese or hasnt been to China. There’s only one kind of muslim in the west, but there are tons of other muslims every where else in China. they are in every city
I think you also forgot, muslims led much of Chinas revolts historically and we’re not talking about the ones next to the stans.
China’s Muslims are stuck in the northwest. They are also visible minorities and cannot easily infiltrate Han areas. Taiwanese forces cannot fight a guerilla warfare because the Chinese navy and air force and air defense would blockade Taiwan preventing foreign arms from reaching Taiwan. Once the Taiwanese Communist party gets installed it’s over.
Only 4% of Chinese are Muslims according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-American_relations
yes very visible minorities..
Losses in Grozny were due to pure incompetence. Same would’ve happened to battalions of M1 Abrams or Leo 2s too.
Black Eagle was roughly same weight range as T-72/-90 and T-80 (mid-40 tons).
T-95 was no where near as heavy (up to 55 tons – similar to Leclerc) as the 60+ ton M1, Leopard 2 and Challenger.
And both Black Eagle and T-95 have been cancelled and more T-90s procured (itself a modified T-72).
No weight has been published for T-99 as far as I am aware.
I’m not sure what Leclerc would bring to Russians in terms of extra capability.
Black Eagle is closer to 50 tons not mid 40s
Leclerc is 54 tons
T-95 was also going to be large and heavy but the Russians cancelled it
also you didn’t really explain how the Challenger or Leopard is superior to the LeClerc at all.