In that case, you can include yourself in the list of ultra-nationalist fanboys who immediately respond whenever anyone says anything against their airforce/country, and in your case like JSR it’s the RuAF and Mother Russia, as demonstrated by your posts in this thread and others…
All we need now is the contribution from the Islamists in the form of PLA-MKII, and the thread will be complete with nationalistic flag waving from most corners of the world.

I assure you TR1 is no fanboy.. ok slight sensitivity to Russian aircraft, but TR1 is a good boy or girl (i dont know gender or name). If you were trapped in a burning house TR1 would ask you if you need food before walking off.

now as for fanboys loyal to mother russia. most of them are not even Russian
haarvalalala is norwegian (at least in name), msphere is french, and jotaku is mormon.

even some of the chinese fanboys are not chinese
like golden dragon and pla-mkii

us fanboys.. we got a few indians and spaniards.

however french fanboys tend to be only french. why is that.

maybe you might know this
but which exact Mirage III aircraft has the most kills ever?
its likely an IDF one but which.

Like any privately owned corporations wants the Brazilian government to prioritize defense programs that give it the largest share of governmental investment. What`s so unique in this point of view? On the other hand developing, building and especially exporting advanced fighter aircraft is sure to expose the company to US restrictions or even sanctions, things very bad for the prospect of exporting Brazilian civilian/commercial aircraft, Embraer’s cash cow, to the largest market in the world, the US…

Comments,

Regards

Hammer

hey stud.
well thats why i said, sell a niche product the US does not sell. Just like how Embraer does well because it has no competition from Boeing or Airbus.
and that area right now is light fighters

big bob thobb

you’re right about Poland, they’re still very much active in the defense industry.

look at their new tank unveiled this week! (it has a bit of swedish dna they say)
PL-01

they also had another one called the Anders

supposedly they’re competing against each other.

Embraer make successful bizjets, succesful supertucano etc… no point in criticizing them tbh

Embraer finds success in markets that are not dominated by others. i.e. bizjets, small airliners, etc.
Russians, French, and American’s aren’t really doing the light fighter thing anymore
perhaps they got some potential
Chinese aren’t going to get far with their jf-17
neither the Koreans
Saab is the only real rival for them.. but if they can offer the same for less..

its samba time.

Guys please cut Jungle Boy some slack, he is just echoing the general impatient and disheartened mood that we have been recently taking hold of many of our defense related internet forums. It is true that the lack of contracts signed this year clearly symbolizes the Brazilian government’s significant economic-related unease. The local currency has sharply devalued in comparison to the US dollars and the (government induced) heated internal demand for gas and diesel is uncomfortably multiplying the international payments deficit. So naturally this is far from the best moment to create new dollar-denominated debts. The truth is that ALL the military reequipement plans are still valid. The times may have slipped but the plan is still the same. 15 diesel electric subs, six nuclear powered subs two aircraft carriers, a new northern fleet base, thirty new surface warships, etc. The National Defence Strategy breaks Brazil’s main military interest in two areas: a) The Amazon and b) the South Atlantic Ocean that hasn’t changed at all. Brazilian newly built OPVs have been calling regularly on African nations to try to build long term international relationships focused in developing their own armed forces, especially navies. In October one of these OPVs, probably BNS Apa, will go to Angola for their national day commemorations. It is true we don’t have any clear and present “enemy at the gates” but the Government is starting to understand that there is a good geopolitical payback in assisting our neighbors on how to better use their own military means. The Brazilian defense industry is the key player in this process, it is they’re ability to leverage government investment and to turn it into exportable goods and services that is really pushing the military reequipement plans forward. The Brazilian defense industry is currently not structured in its final ideal configuration and many of our deep pocketed giant construction companies are still examining what is the the most effective way forward for them… as soon as this economic turmoil passes contracts are bound to be signed. Money for the four diesel electric and for the first SSN is flowing and progress is happening at a brisk (actually unheard of before in Brazil military history) pace. The same can be said about Embraer’s upcoming KC-390 airlifter, everything is on track and all the milestones are being met as planned. This last month alone the first modernized AM-X attack fighter was delivered to the Brazilian Air Force and the first modernized A-4Ku has been returned to the Brazilian Naval Aviation. The “news” of second hand aircraft and ships is no more than internet gossip that gets repeated in the highly frustrated environment of the Forums, just that. No Brazilian armed forces is REALLY considering the purchase of second hand aircraft or ships. If it does not mean new hightech jobs and transfer of technology for the local industry it is just not going to happen. The main reason behind the repeated delays of the F-X2 fighter bid is the fact that it just does not interest Embraer that much, to it government 2 billion US dollar investment makes much more sense on the KC390 (100% Embraer AND obviously much more easily exportable) then on any F-X2 fighter that might be selected. Without strong industry demand for it the expensive next gen fighter tends to languish in government investment priorities. Prosuper is still on, recently sources at the Ministry of Defense have pointed at a possible win by Germany with a hybrid frigate based on the F124 hull design but equipped with the Thales Nederlands I-Mast 500 and with MBDA Aster missiles in place of the German original APAR radar and the US Standart air defense missiles… But to the Brazilian Navy the first priority is to get the new Brazilian corvette program going. This is parallel to the Prosuper but uses the Barroso hull with the Thales I-Mast 100 and a brand new stealth design superstructure. Start of construction on the first of this class is expected for Nov-Dec next year. The corvette`s redesign is ongoing right now. Four of these will be manufactured in Brasil in the first production tranche. On the Army purchase of new anti aircraft artilery (jointly with the air force) is moving and just some days ago the ministry published the order for the set up of an evaluation/negotiation team to finalize the purchase from Russia of Igla MANPADS and for three full batteries of Pantsir S-1 one for each armed force. Production of the Guarani APC is running with the first batch already in tests around the country. So if you brush away the impatience you see that much is actually happening at this moment. Best Regards, Hammer

So Embraer wants more Embraer?
Embraer should make its own aircraft then.
maybe work with the Koreans or Turks who are desparate for partners.