I know what the AGM-154A is and what it can do. If American forces are using it to hit inside Pakistan, I agree that standoff is desirable. But if Pakistani forces are using it, why do you need standoff? Does the “freedom fighters” have long range SAMS or other point air defense?
I wonder why one need standoff weapons to fight the indigeneous “freedom fighters”. Oh, I forgot! Naval AC and AShMs were also given “to war on terror”. I would wager that not even one of the JSOWs would be used in any ops in Pakistan.
It is not a simple task to vary the frequency emitted by a number of modules while keeping the phase relationships appropriate. It is next to impossible to form a beam out of spread spectrum signals using phased arrays because each component needs a different phase relationship. The only viable method is to dedicate one module for one frequency. It is also possible to use multiple channels in one module, but that is essentially multiple modules in one package.
Also, the signals of all the modules participating in forming a beam MUST be synchronized to each other.
Bottom line, spread spectrum as you know from communication systems doesn’t exist in Radars. The best you can do is a bunch of individual frequencies. Now, those returns can not be combined in time domain. You can only combine them on raster. That will not improve detection, but will only aid in resolution.
Torpedo Dude, you have no clue how microwave radiation and reception works :rolleyes:
User “Vick” posted on BR
From Jane’s
Elta AESA is flying
Bill Sweetman, IDR Technology & Aerospace Editor
SingaporeIsrael Aircraft Industries’ Elta subsidiary is testing a prototype of a fighter radar with an active electronically scanned array (AESA). The first flight took place earlier this year in Elta’s Boeing 737 testbed. The company says that it is ready to take orders for the new radar and that it could be delivered within 18 months of an order.
Designated EL/M-2052, the AESA radar is designed either for new-production applications or as a retrofit for the company’s in-service EL/M-2032-series radars, some 400 of which are in service worldwide. As an upgrade, the radar would replace the old antenna and transmitter and use the existing power supply and radar processor.
One unusual feature is that the array comprises ‘bricks’ of 24 transmit-receiver modules, making it easy to assemble the AESA in different configurations to match the size and shape of an existing fighter nose. Smaller, lower-module-count versions can be air-cooled, reducing weight and making integration simpler.
because it is essentially hundreds (or 2000 in the case of APG-77) individual radars
That is plain wrong. Read up for explanation.
As mentioned elsewhere, there is a class of AESA where the T/R module just contains amplifiers both ways. This architecture would behave exactly like PESA in terms of beam management. This one will offer better S/N ratio (because of the LNA right close to the detector) than PESA, but looses all the cool things like multiple beams, multiple functions etc. I believe many of the current US equipment belong to this class.
It doesn’t offer any remarkable performance superiority over PESA. It simple provides a lighter, lower power, more reliable antenna.
Harry, if it was posted by anyone else, I would have some doubts about it. I trust you have verified authenticity.
It’s nearly impossible to jam since each T/R module can operate on a different frequency
Plain wrong. Read up earlier post for the clarification.
I said for net radiated power. I also said the PESA would be heavier on the same criteria.
Spread spectrum transmission is possible in PESA, but the versatility is obviously less than AESA.
I am not saying PESA is better than AESA. But it is not TOO inferior either.
Althought this is true to some extent, still being able to detect a target from 40km is a way better than being totally jammed.
Noise jammers will jam all frequencies together. DRFM synthesizes its output, so naturally that will play back all frequencies as well. Only simpler doppler cancelling jammers will have a problem
No big difference.
OK, let me debunk a major misconception in the discussions on AESA. The notion that each of the modules scan a small area is totally incorrect. If you turn on a single module, it will create a low power wide angle beam almost reaching the entire FOV of the array antenna. The beam is created by interference of the multiple emitters at the correct phase relationship, and the larger the number of modules participating in the beam, the sharper the definition. Needless to say, all emitters participating in a single beam MUST have the EXACTLY same frequency. Otherwise you can not form the beam properly. This is achieved by either a digitally synthesized master signal or using a low power phase shifter approach.
Now this requirement also debunks the notion that being able to use multiple frequencies, AESA is more immune to jamming. The only advantage in this regard would be that it is possible to create multiple beams each with a different frequency.
Nice info Stealth.
A couple of points that can be added:
1. For the same net radiated power, PESA would give better detection performance than AESA.
2. But to get the same net radiated power, PESA will spend way more input power. Also the antenna will be way more heavier.
3. The multi function performance of AESA is a bit over rated. It can have split beams at different frequencies, but use as RWR? Nah!
AESA is desirable, but is that indispensable? I don’t think so.
The biggest advantage of AESA over PESA is that it can split the beam into many and effectively work as multiple antennas. That will enable it to run one virtual antenna to scan and another to focus on tracks and to guide weapons. Another is lower power consumption.
From available information on the russian efforts, their AFAR uses a simpler low power phase shifter based architecture, which will have limitations in beam agility IMO. I am eagerly waiting for more info on them.
Eliminating/reducing mechanical scanning requirement is definitely a plus.