Here’s an example of Crying Nut.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgkSTFbWGPg

Liked the accordion…quite folksy…half way through could have been an old madness video!

Don’t knock the heavy metal, my stepson loves it, ok, the new stuff I can’t cope with, but everyone should be given a chance, let it be.
As for Amy, she is great, but some of her new album material doesn’t do a lot for us, and her performance on the mainstage at Glastonbury was dreadful, but then she has problems, shown quite clearly that night, and, anyway, we like the way she looks, sometimes wierd can be an advantage.
She has the ability to cross over into so many styles that most performers can’t do, unfortunately, there is alot of a jazz orientation, probably the only style of music that we really can’t appreciate.
I hope she comes out the other side, finds her niche, and proves the true talent she really is, what ever type of music that is, jazz or otherwise.

Hey, I do enjoy some heavy metal!…but it’s nice to try new stuff as well….
Anyway…some heavy metal from the one of the best ever guitarists…
Play it loud…enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zmTmmJ3Sxk

Btw, I agree that Amy can be terrible live sometimes…hope she comes out the other side 😎

Forget all that heavy metal dross! 😀 :p

Check out youtube.com – Amy Winehouse -Tears Dry on Their Own 😎
…her best song so far http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LVGcIC1Tc

Forget what she looks likes, shoestring video, her drugs etc :diablo: …who gives a ****! What a voice and what a song!

Well said….

Hurrifan…. I second that!

By the way, welcome back Flex… the forum was poorer during your recent absence.

Our American brethren were almost apoplectic at times :p 😀 (by the way when are you going to learn PII: we like Americans:eek: …they’re no different from any other humans! 😮 😀 ) but you’ve got a small cabal misdirecting your foreign policy (including AIPAC people at the heart of a foreign power, Israel; the national interest of America is not the same as the national interest of Israel for God’s sake!)

PII, give me a break!…Come back with good arguments (instead of, when running out of arguments): “you hate us anyway but I don’t care!” :p

I look forward to a decent debate and I’ve been dying to come in many times (:diablo: 😀 ) but we are really snowed under at work so I’ll have to wait…;)

If, North Korea supplied a Nuclear Weapon to a third party that used it against the US and killed large numbers of American. We would care………..:p North Korea would be a wasteland!

Scooter, thank you for that well thought out contribution above. 😉

However, when you make your statements why don’t you spend a few minutes of your valuable time actually answering to what is in people’s replies rather than just “we’ll bomb the sh!t out of them” (We all know that what you’d do!:dev2: 😀 )

You’re not related to General Macarthur by any chance are you, because he thought that’s the only language those Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Russkies [delete as appropriate] understand! 😀 :diablo:

Who says it would have to be a ICBM? If, some Islamic Terrorist Group set off even a small nuclear weapon in say New York City killing Hundreds of Thousands or Millions. Perhaps the weapon is conventional with a small amount of radiological material like you stated. Really, it doesn’t matter………any WMD would have the same result. The retaliation from the US would be “MASSIVE” to say the least! Really, your logic excapes me………you think Hitler wouldn’t have used a Nuclear Weapon if he had one! Remember, Saddom gassed thousands of his own people! Hopefully, if we’ve learned anything over the last 60 years is “madmen do mad things”…….to think otherwise is dumbfounding! :p

You realise of course explosives with radiological material attached do not constitute a nuclear bomb or a WMD!

If a type of “dirty” bomb were exploded using yellow cake or crude uranium ore (they’d need a truck to move it!) in New York you would not get millions of casualties, or even in the hundreds for that matter.

You’d get more effect if you used material supplied by what would have to be a major state such as the US, Russia, China etc with particle accelerators or reactors that could manufacture significant quantities of say plutonium!

If terrorists managed to get a real nuclear warhead (you accept they couldn’t just make one up in a cave somewhere of course?) and smuggled it to New York without detection (!) who would you retaliate against?

Would you bomb one of the former Soviet Republics? Russia? (the former Soviet Union have lost track many of their suitcase bombs secreted (these are real mini nuclear bombs) or use by Spetnaz Special forces all over Europe and the US. How about Iran? (!) You invaded Iraq because Bush said they had WMD but he and Blair later agreed there were no WMD there!:o :p

North Korea is in the grip of a madman. Are you going to punish the starving peasants by bombing the sh1t out of them because of him? (why not make friends and influence people like when you bombed Fallujah and killed a few hundred “gooks” because the insurgents were there as well!)

When Saddam was gassing his own people in 1988 (well, the Kurds:p ) using Chemicals supplied by US, German and French companies (I believe our old friend Donald Rumsfeld was quite a chum of Saddam in those days :eek::dev2: :D) there wasn’t a pip of protest from America (or anywhere else for that matter). So, please forgive the Iraqis if they don’t quite feel you’ve got their best interests at heart; rather the contrary, you don’t give a toss about them at all, but think they’re all a bunch of ragheads like Osama (even though on Iraq was a secular country full of booze and inimical to people of that ilk!). Fallujah was just a taster for Iraqis of what to expect when freedom comes visiting whether they like or not (and possibly get killed in the process!)

Like SOC said a squad just taking out Saddam (he was your “madman” and he did America’s bidding for a long time and was supplied by them with chemicals and weapons but it didn’t do him any good! Was he any worse than Pinochet who died in his bed!) and letting the Iraqis get on with themselves would have been one option. When he did your bidding fighting the Iranians he was OK – not a word from you lot about him being “mad” then!:D 😮 😀

Somebody’s joke on another thread about Americans mixing up Chinese and Japanese was actually close to the bone as I bet many Americans believe going into Iraq was something to do with revenge for a wholly unconnected event, 9/11!:D :diablo:

And what’s Hitler got to do with the price of bread? :rolleyes: We all know he was a nasty piece of work but what logic are you using to extrapolate from Hitler to say Iran cannot have nuclear weapons like any other sovereign country? If you mean they’ll use them, of course Iran would want to be a nuclear wasteland with radioactive fallout rendering much of the country deadly following Israel’s massive retaliation (if the US slipped in a few cruise missiles who’d know they weren’t Israeli – blame it on Israel because they all hate them anyway! (even though Iran was supplied arms and spares by Israel:eek: 😀 )

Its the United States mate. You know the folks with most capable military machine on the planet. Daniel

But still… :p 😀 :diablo:

Analyst :U.S. plans envision broad attack on Iran.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. contingency planning for military action against Iran’s nuclear program goes beyond limited strikes and would effectively unleash a war against the country, a former U.S. intelligence analyst said on Friday.

Also, Iran’s oil production capacity is fast declining and in terms of conventional military power, “Iran is a virtual non-entity,” Katzman added.

Absolutely incredible after getting it wrong on Iraq that people in the White House are apparently still actually listening to the same idiots that wanted to march into the “axis of evil” countries like Iran, Syria etc (while at the same time using the secret police of the Baa’thist regime in Damascus to torture suspects dropped off in rendition flights because they don’t want to get caught doing it themselves!)

Oil was steady at $30-35 a barrel and even a relatively short time ago $70 a barrel for oil would have seemed impossible- who’s ready now for oil $200 a barrel and economic meltdown if the Persian Gulf is blocked or tankers have difficulty negotiating the Straits of Hormuz? 5 of the top 6 countries with the highest proven oil reserves are in or around that crescent of Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Alternative sources like the giant shale beds in Canada are not so economic (yet) to exploit and others like Russia and Alaska have their own (different) problems.

Taking on Iran would just unite the country against the invaders (just as when Iraq invaded Iran) and give credibility to the mad mullahs or theocracy who are failing the common man in the street (who like people everywhere just aspire to a good life and to get to ******* his wife every Saturday night (quite like routine don’t they!:D) ). Fairly trite, but had they thought through before invading Iraq they might have addressed some of the current problems.

Getting the Israelis to do it for them is just as mad, as the national interests of Israel (or some elements of its Government of the time) and the USA are not necessarily the same. General Macarthur wanted to drop a few nukes on the Chinese (just like those advocating “tactical” (sic), (:D ), nuclear strikes in Iran using mini nukes) and follow them across the Yalu river into China itself. Luckily the US then had a President with balls in Truman who just sacked the trigger-happy general who just saw simplistic military answers to problems that had wider implications (maybe running Japan after the war went to his head, absolute power….etc etc).

It was another 5 star general and later President (another sensible one! :diablo: 😀 ), who coined the phrase “military-industrial complex”, and had teh balls to tell Israel, Britain and France to get the hell out after their invasion of Eqypt in 1956.

Why can’t Iran have their own bomb when other countries have it. As a deterrent it does stop bigger countries invading you and ordering you about (like the largest superpower since the Roman Empire – remember PII: hubris before the fall but will you get this?;) ). Mutually Assured Destruction is understood even by a mullah. Are they going to bomb Israel and get massive retaliation in return?

Are the mullahs of Iran really that mad or are we getting afraid of our own shadow in this “war on terror” (Fox News ticker: “Terror alert: Elevated” – every day since 2001! 😀 😀 😀 what about the millions killed elsewhere in the world in the last few decades:rolleyes:). Of course, having this artificial pervasive fear is exactly what is wanted as people tend not to question incompetents in power “as it’s all alright-must be ‘cos it’s against the war on terror”!:dev2: 😀 :