Fairey Battle?

Was that the same as the aircraft shown staring up that had two sets of exhausts on each side of the cowling – that one looked like a Fairey Battle test-bed to me?

Lancaster over St Leonards on Sea (Hastings) 14:54 today

PA474 just flew over the office heading south, at VERY low level.

Given we are on the ridge above the town she seemed to almost take the roof off…..what a brilliant noise!

Any idea where she is going? Eastbourne show was last week, so I am suprised to see her back here so soon….no complaints from me though 😀

@Paul F
Nobody ever said it couldn’t have benefits, but it is a poison, and that’s why some people choose not to consum it and don’t want it in their water supply. Not that I really care, my water doesn’t contain it…

Hi ppp,

Not wishing to split hairs, but I suspect you mean “My local water supply company does not add it”, which is very different to “my water does not contain it”. Fluorine is a naturally occurring element, and is probably present in all water supplies albeit at very low levels, possibly below levels of detection. Please note, I’m not trying to appear clever, or be patronising, I’m just trying to explain the subtle difference that many people fail to appreciate when saying things are “free from” or “don’t contain” something

@critter592
Fluoride in the water isn’t that much of a conspiracy, it IS a poison, it even says so on the packet. I can’t see how a water filter would remove it from the mains. A better idea would be to drink only mineral water. Also not all counties in the UK have fluorinated water.

Flouride is the same as many other chemical elements, consume too much or too little it may cause harm, get the dose right and it can bring benefits. Common salt (Sodium chloride) is also a poison inasmuch that an inappropriate dose can cause irreperable damage to the body. Water can kill too if you drink too much, and lack of it can also kill.

What type of water filter has he fitted, how does he know it will filter out the drugs? And how does he know that any replacement filter cartridges are not already impregnated with more “drugs” by the ‘men in black’ before he fits them:dev2:?

As for drinking mineral water – you don’t really believe those figures they put on the bottle labels do you :eek:, read the small print and you will see the “typical analysis” values often relate to an analysis on a sample taken some time ago…. who knows what they may be adding to the water these days 😉 :rolleyes: And who performed the analysis on the mineral water, how do you know ‘Big Brother’ wasn’t tampering with the samples…. :diablo:

Even the name is a clue for those of us who are really in the know “MINERAL WATER” , for those that didn’t study chemistry or nutrition fluorine/fluoride is defined as a mineral. 😀

Either that or, significant numbers of taxpayers are either bored witless or can’t afford the monstrous ticket prices.

John Green

…or have simply given up on the event as a lost cause after the ticket lottery fiasco?

It seems that those closely involved in the event cannot see (or perhaps deliberately choose not to see?) how much adverse impact it is having on those who have no interest in it, and upon those who cannot see any lasting economic or social benefit coming to most places outside London.

I work in a town in the South East that has higher than average unemployment, and that will suffer two half-days of total traffic disruption as the torch passes through later this week. What benefit will this town see after the torch has left?

Visitors travelling to London for the Olympic are unlikely to travel this far south, not least because the rail companies are already warning residents to expect travel disruption, and asking resident commuters to avoid travelling to work in London if they can. Will those commuters get a rebate ont heir season ticket for those two weeks? Why would tourists choose to spend 90mins each way on a train to visit the South Coast when you have all the tourist attractions in London to visit?

If the organisers really thought visitors would travel this far out of London, then surely they would have organised beach volleyball on a sandy beach on the South Coast, rather than in Horseguards Parade. And why not hold Equestrian events at Hickstead, or at Badminton, instead of in Greenwich Park?

Regardless of the platitudes being offerred to the wider UK, “London 2012” is just that, it is fast becoming clear that few other towns or cities in UK will see much lasting benefit. Even those hosting the few “out of town” events will probably see little lasting benefit after the games have moved on, as most of the facilities being used already existed.

It also appalls me that BBC continue to promote their olympics coverage on a daily basis, at every single opportunity, given it will disrupt “normal” BBC TV schedules anyway. It’s hardly as if the UK population are likely to forget the Games are imminent. I dread to think how much of our Licence Fee has been wasted on all those flashy BBC TV reminders and advertisements, while the main BBC channels carries ever more repeats of old programmes? The self-promotion adds nothing to the service the BBC provide, so why waste money on it in the first place?

Paul F

RAF and Nimrod MR4? :diablo::diablo::diablo:

The money doesn’t disappear.

Unless it was spent with foreign contractors it will have provided business for UK suppliers, jobs, income.

All of which are taxed, so a large proportion of it comes back to the treasury.

While I agree with the sentiment Moggy, I would be interested to see exactly how much of the “11 Billion” has actually gone back into UK economy, and how much has gone elsewhere such that UK plc /HMRC see no benefit from it whatsoever….;)

No doubt the IOC and all it’s hangers-on needs to be funded, and I doubt much of that outlay ends up benefitting UK. 🙁

I would be interested to know exactly how much of the final total (whatever that may turn out to be) has been funded by UK government (both directly and, indirectly, via various govt funded “bodies” and grants).

I also wonder what will happen to all the jobs “created” out of the games once they are over – I guess some construction jobs will remain for a while as the top tier of the main stadium is dismantled, and a few groundsmen/security heads until new owners take over the “legacy”, but I fear the vast majority employed up to and during the games will soon find themselves looking for work (and some may well return overseas from whence they came)? Will we see a hike in the UK unemployment figure this autumn? 🙁

Technology failures – blame apportioned to the offshore cheapo support naturally. Who else could be blamed?

Perhaps whomever sanctioned the bank’s use of whichever “cheapo support” provider was at fault should take the blame for selecting an inadequate supplier:D:D

Or maybe whomever allowed an upgrade to be run without assessing the risk of failure and ensuring a rapid, and effective, “plan B” was in place in case the software upgrade failed.:D:D

Yes no doubt a “cheapo support” supplier made the error, but the buck stops with whomever chose/approved that supplier.:diablo:

Basic quality systems should ensure an organisation only selects outsource contractors that can do the job properly, and that the company should also run through the “what if…” cases to ensure adequate provision is in place to resolve any problems. Taking a week (or longer) to get things sorted is totally inadequate. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

I would expect to see very senior heads rolling at RBS (not at their cheapo support provider). 😡

But, based on past history in the banking sector, those at the top will walk away scott free (or be sent packing with big payoffs) while the poor branch staff will get naff all for dealing with loads of irate customers…:rolleyes:

And, despite what they may be saying in press releases, things are still not sorted, I understand some business account customers are still suffering:mad: