All this in times, when the Pakistani government claimed, that the prohibitiv high outlays for nuclear arms are neccessary to prevent the danger of war for Pakistan. Something is wrong about that logic. It seems, that atomic weapons are not enough to prevent a conventional war. So you have a double burden or why more new conventional weaponary at all?!

Because ‘we care’. We would hate to nuke the hell out of our enemies in the first place. Conventional weaponry will be used first. If the enemy refuses to be humbled, then unconventional weaponry comes into consideration.

See, after all, we’re not that bad at heart.

What in the world is an FC-20? It doesn’t even make sense, the JF-17 is the FC-1, not the FC-10 :confused:

FC-20 is the PAF term for J-10.

The numbers are back up to 77 for the F-16’s. Our Eastern neighbour has pushed us to come to this state. I hope we put the order of the J-10’s/F-10’s on a faster rate, We have growing needs. If we do not recieve the AIM-120, this order is not satisfying. For those of you ranting for the AIM-9X, you can forget it. We just recieved 300 new AIM-P/M’s (or something) just last year. The AIM-9X would only raise the burdon being put on our Air Force.

Let me take you guy on a little math lesson.

1 F-16 costs 45 million.
We are getting 77 F-16’s

45,000,000 x 77 = 3,465,000,000

1 AIM-120 costs 300,000
each of our F-16’s should carry 2 AIM-120’s

77 x 2 = 154 , 154 AIM-120’s aren’t enough because we need spares and others…So we will probably have about 170-190 AIM-120’s (note i am trying to make a realistic scenario)

180 AIM-120’s cost 5.4 million

3,465,000,000 (the cost of our F-16’s)
+ 5,400,000 (Our 180 AIM-120’s)
————–
3,470,400,000 The total cost of our order.

It says 3.5 billion is the max cost of our order from all the credible information. SO the rest 30 million would probably be used on other things. Probably the exact cost of the F-16’s would fill in that 30 million but since i dont know. WHAT CAN I DO? 😀

You can say goodbye to 77 F-16’s.

Its gonna be around 35 J-10’s, 25 F-16A/B’s and 18 F-16C/D’s for now.

And of course the F-17’s.

Here is a news that many have been waiting for.

Fed. Cabinet approves purchase of aircrafts from U.S., China

Islamabad: The Federal Cabinet has approved the purchase of F-16 aircrafts from United States and the multi-role combat aircrafts FC-1 from China on Wednesday.

Dude, i will only believe the F-16 crap once i see U.S. Congress approving the deal. GoP approving it doesnt mean sh**. What matters is when will this deal go through U.S. congress. Its been long enough since the offer.

Only the F-16’s were under sanctions (and the C-130’s ?) were they not ? And there were only 32 F-16’s then. So it could’nt have been the sanctions. And if the F-16’s were under sanctions , what was their flying hours then ? Even lower tham 100 hours ?

F-16’s, C-130’s, P-3’s, T-37’s are some platforms that were hit harder due to the sanctions. I am not too sure about the French factor.

But that was not the only reason. Pakistan’s economy was in a very bad situation particularly during the 1998-2000 stage. This couldve been another reason for such reduced flying hours. Its good to know the situation was quickly improved after 2000. Now that they fly to NATO standard.

Plus, its normal for AF’s to reduce flight hours for a certain period of time due to some difficulties. The Russians have done it, so have the Germans at some stage for a few platforms. I read a report by Kenneth Allen that Chinese also reduced flying hours at some stage. What matters is to overcome the situation and bounce back. 🙂