This is more likely for me.:D

And Su-27SM can use any weapon for Su-30MKK,maybe 30MKK2 too.

By the way,J-11B can not use (at least no pic) any A/G weapon till now.

No Zhuk-MS is an upscaled Zhuk-M compatible with the Flanker still using a slotted array. The PESA variant is Zhuk-MF/MFS.

Small overview about the letters:
M = Modernised
E = Export
S = Scaled up variant for the Flanker family
F = PESA variant
A = AESA variant

Zhuk-AE is the AESA export variant for the Fulcrum for example. Zhuk-ME the modernised slotted array export variant of the Zhuk. Zhuk-MFS is a scalled up PESA variant of the radar for the Flanker family etc.

By the way.

AESA=АФАР，PD=ФАР PESA=ПФАР（Not sure about PESA,not it is not Ф IIRC)

Su-35BM > Su-30MKA/MKM > Su-30MKI > J-11B

It is : Su-35BM > Su-30MKA/MKM > Su-30MKI > Su-27SM>J-11B

Zhuk-MS is PESA and above stuff is sightly PD radar.

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The Su-35BM uses an Irbis-E PESA radar set, while the J-11B uses a Type 1474 AESA. The maximum range of the latter is unknown, but both radars offer comparable performance to the APG-77 series, used in the F-22.

Do you think this is a AESA radar?

This stuff is no better than N001VE.

Please be reminded that in Chinese based abbreviations, “M” does not mean Modification, or Upgrade, as they do with the Russians, rather the abbreviations are based on Chinese words, and in this case, “M” would mean “Export”.

Thus J-11BM would mean J-11B for Export, which currently won’t be happening without Russian complaint.

“G” as in “Gai” would mean Improved. So an improved J-11B would be J-11BG. However, if an all new letter is used, like J-11C, then its a further modified scale where J-11C > J-11BG.

The use of successive letters (A and above) would mean improved variants except for reserved letters:

G = Gai for Improved.
F = Air Defense, meaning specialized interceptor with long range missiles.
S = Two Seater
H = Two meanings, either for Bomber or Strike, or for Naval Use.
M = Export

Man,some small mistake.

F doesen’t mean any thing,just 6th version.If you know J-7FS..

H = Bomber if it is H-XXX and H = nothing while it is X-XHX and H= navy while it is X-XXH

Like H-6D J-8H J-7HH

😉

There is one saying that Chinese start the designation of their 1st indigenously made plane in its class with “ 5” : to be H-5: 1st gen of bomber in PLAAF service or Q-5, 1st attacker , Z-5 the 1st helicopter or Y-5 and J-5 the 1st fighter. Because 5 pronounced in Chinese is close to the meaning of “None” in Chinese, which means everything starts from “none”. A belief 1st documented some near 3 thousand years ago by an ancient Chinese philosopher-Lao Tzu. Modern physician Niels Bohr certainly adopted this thought when he found his “model of atom” comes to the dead end, and he refered to the Lao tzu’s thought as the last explanation .;)

To the other Q, Chinese just modified the existing Mig-15 to trainer themselves but not made them so it there no У ΜиГ-15 trainer made in China.

One saying is there are total up to 1460 Mig-15s imported from/given by USSR to China in 1950s. no one is made in China, because the starting licensed copy is Mig-17, which is designated J-5 and made in China.

No,man…we use 5,just because most of this aircrafts was started in our first 5 years plan…

So I’m actually currently reading the Squadron/Signal book on the MiG-19 and its a very interesting read thus far. Just a quick recap to see where my knowledge stands. I’m just going off memory so please correct me on where I may be wrong. The following just applies to Soviet variants:

MiG-19 Farmer-A: first production version – short vertical fin, two-piece horizontal stab four underwing hardpoints, three NR-23 cannons.

MiG-19P Farmer-B: first radar-equipped version – short vertical fin, two-piece horizontal stab, four hardpoints (R-3S Atoll capability on some airframes), two NR-23 cannons.

MiG-19PG Farmer-B: fitted with datalink (similar to US SAGE system perhaps?)

MiG-19S Farmer-C: main production day fighter, longer vertical fin, one-piece horizontal stab, four hardpoints, three NR-30 cannons.

MiG-19SF Farmer-C: uprated RD-9 engines.

MiG-19SV Farmer-C: lightened high-altitude version of the Farmer-C.

MiG-19PM Farmer-E: enhanced Izumrud radar with four RS-2U (or RS-2US perhaps?) Alkali missiles, one-piece stab (?), larger vertical fin (?)

Am I missing any variants?

(Note that I’m not including prototypes and experimental versions.)

Peter G

posted in #37

AFAIK same as MIG-19P installation, additional HP were added outboard of the main ones.

MiG-19P:
http://www.sanko.wroclaw.pl/apt/mig-…MiG-19P-23.jpg

I take back the MiG-19SF standard with R-3S comment. North Vietnamese MiG-19SF were later added with R-3S, as were Egyptian MiG-19S..

My point: this is a MiG-19PT