Man,if you know:
the first J-14s is CG of GaoShan,not real,if you think intake,engine,weapon bay can be one stuff……..
the followed is CG or PS too….
the last J-14?
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU3MjIyODIw.html
check this?
I’m not asking what the RVV-SD and MD is. I’m asking you to post concrete proof that those were the missiles ordered. other wise you’re just speculating
Need some help?
If You do a right-klick with the mouse … choose the more detailed info/data on that picture and You will receive the following info!
I would say it’s a PS-FAKE. 😡
Deino
You are right
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PSed from this.
Lol, by rolling your eyes doesn’t make you an instant aero-expert. End of the day, you still can’t solve the plain fact I present here: the X-36 demonstrated as far as the stealth is concerned, the canard isn’t an absolute adversary to the stealth. So, now look at your original post again: “As far as stealth is concerned, no it’s not. And the obvious proof is that no existing stealth aircraft, either operational or under developement has canards.” Haven’t I answered your ” as far as stealth…” part?
What X-36 can do couples of years ago of course other design development can achieve the same. Look at the designs currently under development,
The next upcoming 5th g fighter could well be with canard, oh, btw, the fact is the blueprint is already frozen last aug and by all accounts it means the prototype is in the making.
Man…this shadow sword (or dark sword) is just a model…
Oh, thank you. But that’s not one bit of my arguement, that’s my argument. You would have known, if you had actually read my posts before you press “Submit Reply”.
It’s not just these three aircraft. Check your sources before accusing other people of ignorance. There is also the F-117, the PAK-FA and all stealth oriented UCAVs: X-47B, Scat…
So, no stealth fighters, bombers and UCAVs till this day have canards. You say it’s a coincidence, I say it’s a fact.
Geeez, I was not aware that the B-2 or the PAK FA were built by Lockheed. Thank you so much for bringing that to this forum’s attention.
Feel free to continue asking for facts after this, it’s very funny 😀
Is it? Do you have a pic to prove it? A real pic not an artist’s impression. I mean start backing your views with facts instead of fantasies.
Hello,HAWX ace!
AFAIK,J-XX have canard and it’s canard must have bigger RCS issue…
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The real aircraft chould very same as this stuff…
At least this stuff include many elements from J-XX
MiG-23MLA existed.
Sources form a friend of mine.
MiG-23MLA factory code 32-12A
in production – 1978~ 83 750-770 planes, ~ 600 for VVS, 560 of them converted to MLD (32-18) in 1982-85
– for VVS only 0390310388~ 0390322399,
And all MiG-23MLA use name of MiG-23ML in VVS.;)
http://www.online-translator.com/site_translation.aspx
Below the site to copy into the translator to learn something about the author.
http://www.testpilot.ru/sergib.htm
It is not my personal intrest to blame Sergy for his intresting collection he started from the end of the 70s, but every serious reader has to be aware, that it s like that and nothing more. I am aware that none will give-up a good read easily, at least when it does create the hits in need to cover the cost from such a website. There are other much more prominent examples to blame for a similar behavior.
At least for a critical reader he does not hide the way he got is informations, the main source are former magazines. None can be surprised by that, but we have to keep in mind, that till 1990 all informations published in the SU had not the correct history in mind and foreign publications are not to buy. The copyright claim for 1998-2009 does show too, that the best time of Glasnost was over again and the main task was to restore national pride, if justified by the former events or not does not matter at first for some reasons.
According to what he said.
Some of these sources should be from USSR magzine,isn’t it?
You can. That day one F-4 was shot down over Syria. See the fate of its crew.
No MiG-23MS in Syria at that time-scale.
Look at this in testpilot.
http://www.testpilot.ru/review/war/mig23.htm
Read the red.
Long before the Soviets ever had a chance to put their MiG-23s into operational use, the type experienced its combat premiere in the Middle East.The first air force to request deliveries of MiG-23s was Egypt, in 1970. However, at the time, the Flogger was not even in production, and request was swiftly refused by the Soviets, who in 1972 fielded the MiG-23M. After additional requests from Egypt and Iraq, in early 1973, the first downgraded export version, the MiG-23MS, equipped with the weapons system of MiG-21MF and R-27F2M-200 turbojets, was developed. Interestingly, this was first supplied to Syria – two MiG-23MS versions and two MiG-23UB two-seaters were shipped in crates on October 14, 1973, aboard two Antonov An-12B Cub transports, which landed at al-Mazzah air base. Before these four could be assembled, flight-tested and their crews made combat ready, the war with Israel was officially over.
So,maybe this is not a MiG-23MS,but it is a downgrad MiG-23MS–MiG-23ME
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23me.html
So,maybe some source mixed MiG-23ME and MS?:confused:
????? … all Su-27-versions have it located in the middle !!! Only the Su-30-series equipped with the IFR-probe have it replaced.
Deino
Su-27SM,Su-33,and Su-27M,Su-35BM is located in right…
The J-10 still uses the Al-31 for several reason, number one it is a mature engine and the Russians reported the J-10 was going to be sold to Iran simply because China asked Russia if they could re-export the Al-31.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=jJoTNOqFrNkHowever as far we can say the J-10 is the best fighter that has ever been designed in China and in the far east.
If China will ever develop a fifth generation needs an engine like the 117S
and not like we are working on it but as here we have the engine fitted into a J-10 fighter like the Russians have shown in the Su-35BM.I am sure China will develop a fifth generation fighter, but i do not think they are as close to do it as many claim.
If the Russians claim the WS-10 is not ready is simply becasue they will deliver 100 more AL-31s in 2008-2009 for the J-10, so probably they know the WS-10 still can not compete with the AL-31 and also this was reported by some sources that the WS-10 was still deficient and therefore the Russians claim the copy of the Su-27 is not as capable as the original Su-27 and much less les capable than the Su-35BM
A top manager of the Russian aviation holding said several J-11s had been assembled with Russian components, but at the moment mass production is not an issue.
According to a staff member of the aero engine design bureau, the WS-10 is not good enough for serial manufacture. In 2007, the Chinese concluded a new contract for the delivery of 54 AL-31FN engine (a version of the AL-31F) and are now discussing the purchase of an improved AL-31F-M, he said.
Looks like……..
WS-10B is fitted into a J-10 fprototype.
And.
The first batch of J-11B[with WS-10A]entered the service with PLAAF 1st Division (serial # 10x2x) in late 2007