I must admit to being mildy amused by someone attempting to instruct Mike Collett on how to run a business.
He’s built any number of successful enterprises employing many hundreds of people and preserving for (at least short term) posterity many airframes in flying condition. Some of his enterprises haven’t prospered, but he’s always prepared to try, and then put down the odd failure to experience.
How does your CV compare Mr Nostalgair?
Genuine question, I have no idea of your track record.
Moggy
We’ll I don’t run an aviation museum,that’s admitted. But I do have two very successful motor trade outlets, a vehicle parts business, a motor home hire business.garden centre and three homes which I also own, so I know how to make money if that’s what you’re asking Moggy? As for Nostalgair 1, sadly the name was already taken.and my grouse wasn’t with you it was with Mr B!.
i dont want to say i told you so….BUT!!
Not sure if its a bloody shambles! Like most museums they have had to face economic reality . Would it be more sensible to carry on and fall into the trap of having aircraft and no money?
Regards the BAC 1-11 and VC-10 -there is no realistic future in one piece for them.
Mr Burke, i do so hope you remember the heated exchanges we had in the none too distant past on this matter, i said then that a central location like coventry was the only hope for the collection to prosper and grow, but did anyone listen? well yes actually some did. perhaps in future we can learn from this, in the words of the great Warwickshire man himself ” All that glisters is not gold!” (M.O.V act 2 scene 7). or, a slighty more modern twist, ”the grass is not always greener on the other side). perhaps now Mr Collett will concentrate on the one site and take advice from someone who knows. advertise it, Get the kids involved, the schools ,the Uni’s, the W.I. if you have to!, make it work Mr C! , i don’t deny you’ve ploughed huge amounts of cash into the project and without you many if not all of these airframes would be no longer. focus now on what you have at Coventry and make it bigger and better!, I was at a works meeting recently and had the ears of over 200 Birmingham workers and none of them knew there was a DC6 20 odd miles down the road where you could take the missus and the kids for a meal!, let alone an entire collection of working, groaning, noisy,smelly aeroplanes that you could see up close and personal!, Push it, advertise it and make it friendly and interactive and youll be on to a winner, i was delighted to see the Airshow is back this year, make it busy, get outside aircraft in, a fly-in. no landing fees.a funfair,classic cars.what about a cockpit fest , COVPIT !!?, Anyway, the main thing is i am delighted to hear its all coming back up the M5, Cornwall is for Jethro and pasties, I guess the St Mawgan Shack is for the knackers yard now then?, but if that’s the price to pay to get the collection back to a central, accessible ,logical location then it will be a small sacrifice, i reckon there is still hope to save it.right, rant over. and Welcome back!
I believe there were Truss hangars at the Former MG Rover plant at Longbridge but that they were demolished a couple of years ago, they were the hangars that Hurricanes and fairey Battles were built in before being hoisted up the hill and flown off from the area which is now occupied by Chinese MG sales Centre. nice that the housing developer has called the street names after Fairey and Hurricane though!
The trouble is i was at Cosford air show back when ‘diamond Lil” Was on her uk tour and listening as i do on my Airband scanner the crew were quite happy to do another 2 or 3 passes as they were on schedule and had plenty of fuel on board, But cosford ATC gave them a NO NO and to clear the area for a display by the Tucano if i remember correctly! Dont let something like a Tucano stand in the way of all the expense and effort of getting something all the way over from the US!! .
Definitely not Hornet.
The upper half is very different.
No Hornets crashed in the Netherlands… the closest was in Germany.
If it was a high speed impact it could have carried on for a few miles!
Hornet
There are other very worthwhile, rather noisy british aircraft that are equally as awe inspiring and possibly served with even greater if not equal distinction, The sea vixen gets a pretty rough deal in the UK and certainly has nothing like the cash thrown at it that the vulcan does. personally i think its time the money pit that is the Vulcan bowed out, i’m not anti vulcan i get tears in my eyes when i see it and hear it, As for the anti flash white . it would be great to paint it in a temporary white finish for its last flying season, i know that film makers make great use of such finishes and though its not too hard wearing it would surely stand up to a single season of flying with some touching up on leading edges’ panels etc? then before it goes to its final resting place return it to its current scheme. its a damn shame there arent any Javelins or scimitars that could be returned to the air without spending the sort of Money that ”The Doc” requires each year to keep his dream in the air. more realistically the chaps at Coventry are doing a sterling job on the Shack and i can see that flying again with the right support and backing. If VTTS have done anything in the last decade its to show that miracles can happen! they’ve got the original manufacturers, support agencies such as marshalls and even the dreaded CAA on side and that’s very encouraging. Actually , heres a thought…. since old Kermit weeks seems to have closed the doors on his Gin Palace would he consider selling the sunderland /sandringham back to the nation it belongs and we see that flying around the British coastline again . you can’t much more British than that! its big, Its majestic and its got bristols!! or are they P&Ws on that?? ,anyway its a beautiful piece of aviation history and a worthy successor to the Vulcan on the airshow circuit, has anyone seen a Big Flying boat landing on a lake? I can only compare to the grace of a swan. Come on chaps, weve got to say goodbye to the delta sooner or later lets find a new project to get our teeth and wallets into.
Lincoln! definately Lincoln.
[QUOTE=DCW;2182085]My favourite recent addition is the wonderful Sea Balliol, on show after many years in storage:
Has this been in storage? Its seems to have been on display near the Lincoln for donkeys years!
I visited too a month or so ago, unfortunately there was a flight sim show on so hangar 1 was ticket only. One question that baffled me is the York has black painted ‘windows’, any idea why? All I can think is that is was a civil freighter before being retired and it has never been properly restored by the RAFM?
if my memory serves me correct the transparencies were in a bad way as the result of a fire on board the aircraft prior to display at cosford, thus they were hastily painted black, its a shame they cant be restored or replaced. if im being totally honest i think the york has been a tad negleccted over the years, she has had an exhaust stub missing for god knows how long and the silver finish is distinctly tired, thank heavens the Duxford example is showing the type off to full advantage!
certainly looks gannet! where did you get it?
i was merely pointing out that if i had to part with a fiver i’d rather spend it at Cosford than at the Chinese embassy in Birmingham!
you could always pay a fiver to see the MG factory at Longbridge? ………………………………….sort of puts it into context now doesnt it?
there is a very similar atmosphere when left to walk around the buildings at the former Rover factory in Longbridge!
what a fabulous response!! but we should seriously be thinking about the two lancs a shack a vulcan an anson and a 504 all taxiing around coventrys perimeter!!