Reuters Pictures:

showing the moment of collision i believe.
http://uk.reuters.com/news/pictures/articleslideshow?articleId=UKTRE5771QM20090809&channelName=worldNews#a=1

more collision pictures from FOX: http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/U.S./2009/08/08/midair-collision-hudson-river?slide=1

Just read in a British newspaper this morning families and friends of those on board are preparing to sue AF for tens of millions, yeah I know they are in terrible pain at the moment and they want answers but do the really believe that suing the airline before the investigation has even started is going to get anywhere, it’s not even been proved that AF is directly responsible, I think after the co-operation and friendlyness we has seen from AF this week compensation will be offered even if it proves they were not at fault.

To me suing AF without any evidence against them is like stabbing them in the back on my opinion

One more thing , this tragedy illustrates that , despite what airline industry wants us to believe , flying is still risky business , and when things go wrong , they go wrong with massive loss of life.
If you compare civilian aviation to military aviation difference is clear …..military always have option of punching out and use their rescue systems ….there are none available , especially for airliners .Compare it to shipping industry , if cruise liner goes down crew and passengers have option to use lifeboats to survive until recued ….airliners do not have anything similar .It is all good when airliner has engines malfunction or some other malfunction and they have airstrip nearby where they can try to land ….mid ocean there is no such option .
Landing on water surface is at best extremely risky in best of conditions with good visibility and no waves . Try to do that in the middle of the night in stormy conditions and water landing becomes virtual impossibility .
I believe airline industry has to rethink passenger airliner design and try to come with answer …how to survive catastrophic failure in order to minimise loss of life .

But still if you look at the statistics of fatalities in car accidents over the past 24 months there will still be more people killed on the roads the only reason aviation gets a mention in the news us because of the number of people killed at once.

Wow only $5M i though my 206 depreciated quickly, its lost over £3k in 3 years.

I belive both have a sperate battery supply , just incase of a main electrical failure, so should have recorded right up to the last few seconds
with reports of 2 wreckage araes located Im assuming that this aircraft has broken up in flight

Has the wiring been redesigned since AA191? because when the engine came of that power was lost to the CVR?

a quote on the BBC news website made me laugh, surely they musn’t have heard about the security regulations after 9/11:

On the air traffic controllers’ forum Stuck Mic, Caminito speculates about the disappearance of the plane:
Could it be possible that the aircraft was kidnapped by aviation knowledgeable people, forced the crew to send the “automatic” message and then continued in silence to land somewhere in the enormous Amazonas region or in Africa?

it makes you wonder though if the aircraft is designed to send messages to maintenance when there is a technical problem in flight, why isn’t it programmed to send position data every 30 seconds or so overwriting the previous position data, then when the next one isn’t recieved its left with the position of the aircraft no more than 30 seconds before the accident?

If some of the passengers did make last minute calls and texts can the authorities not just get the phone companys to trace the last known position of the signal?

I feel confident that something will be found today, especialy after reports of fire on the sea from other pilots.

Check in was swift and easy

We make an effort at NCL now and again 😀

Proceeded through security around 1900 with no queing at all

You’ll never be that lucky again 😛

the other advantage with BA over low cost is if you go over your 23kg instead of charging £25 per kg we charge you £25 for an extra 9 kilos so that’s: less than £3 a kilo find an airline that charges you less than that per kg