Be thankful for what you get chaps. I realise that you can’t please all of the people all of the time, but in this insurance and litigation rich society that we call the free world, Legends is a top display. Jane Larcombe works her bottie off to try and come up with something different, so be thankful it produces some surprises every year, rather than same old, same old of other displays. Just wait and see what turns up 🙂
And I agree 100% about the Cub/Storch duo, and also agree that Dave Evans and Clive Denney should use real guns, and proper smoke!
I think it is silly to say that aerobatics, which have a certain element of danger at high altitudes, are not more dangerous when flown at low altitudes.
Hmmmm??? Since when have aerobatics been ‘dangerous’ at high altitudes? Correctly flown at ANY height, any aerobatic manouvre is safe. When flown badly, with poor speed control, low energy etc at low level, the aeroplane is going to bite you eventually. At high level, Its going to look and feel awful, but not ‘dangerous’ unless you eventually hit the deck by putting the aeroplane in an unrecoverable situation.
In 2000 or 2001, Strikemaster G-BXFX spun in from something like FL150 when a test flight spinning exercise went wrong….both occupants had servicable ejector seats which were fired at a very low height (much less than 2000ft). 10000ft after entering the spin (i.e 5000ft at the very lowest), with no apparent recovery, I’d have been reaching for the handle!
Low level display flying effectively means that even if a parachute is worn, the options for escape in an emergency are limited – which is why aerobatic manouvres HAVE to be flown accurately every time, every display, 100% of the time.
If there was any evidence that low level aerobatics, correctly flown, were dangerous, they wouldnt happen (in UK flying displays anyway)
Aeroplanes rarely fail….pilots often do
I heard somewhere (a friend’s brother’s aunt’s sister’s dog’s brother-in law!) that a lot of modern RAF aircraft have engines, ejector seats etc that are not owned by the RAF, but ‘leased’ to them by the manufacturer.
Flying low safely and flying low and crashing are separated by a very thin line…No matter who the pilot is or how talented they are, vintage aeroplane or not, the ground is a very hard substance in aviation! I’m sure most pilots know that better than anyone else.
Low flying is perfectly safe if planned and executed properly. Screwing up an aerobatic manouvre at low level however, is a killer and of course, the mark of an expert at low level aerobatics is that each manouvre is performed 100% correctly every time, even at very low level. And to see this in practice, just watch any one of Ray Hanna, Nigel Lamb, Pete Kynsey, Brian Smith, Carl Schofield, Paul Bonhomme, Brian Lecomber etc etc. All apart from Ray are aerobatic pilots who once flew competition aerobatics….100% accuracy every time.
Heard today that there has been some activity at Halton with TE184, including engine runs.. Maybe this means we will see it airborne in the near future?
Anyone know who has bought it, or where’s it’s going? (It must need some engineering work after such a long time on the ground)
ISTR that this Beverley was originally parked at Hull (Paull) aifield. Is this the same place??
Flat 12,
I think it was in 1998 or 1999 when Ray Hanna did the first run down the pit lane at Goodwood. He did it again last year at the revival meet press day, not quite so low this time.
Got some fantastic pictures but I cant post them here due to copyright :confused:
Thanks Mark12
Anyone know who owns the Spitfires in the jigs featured right at the end of the programme?
The MIG-17 maybe ‘awaiting certfication’, but until the CAA have decided that the operator is competent and agreed their ‘Organisational Control Manual’ (CAP 632 ), then it ‘aint going anywhere.
They have always had to since the creation of the microlight PPL.
I know that, you know that, but an awful lot of Microlight drivers currently flying out there seem to have forgotten…..
A understanding of Aviation law and the nav order will be a must.
Does that mean that microlight pilots who fly now will have to learn it as well?
Dont hold your breath – current CAA rules prevent it from flying, unless it’s heading away from the country:(
The current pilots are:
Frank Chapman
Sir John Allison
Tony Haig-Thomas
Roger Bailey
Trevor Roche
George Ellis
John Turner
Rob Millinship
Andy Sephton
Keith Dennison
Des Penrose
Gordon McClymont
Dave Mackay
Paul Stone
Peter Kosogorin
Some of those who did fly are:
Neil Williams
John Lewis
Angus Mcvitie
D-i-c-k-y Martin (D-i-c-k is obviously one of those swear words!)
Who on earth thought up that scheme???????? Yuk!!!