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  • in reply to: Indian Air Force Pictures #2669978
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    Harry and Wolverine, there is no single source to find most of the info you guys post about, and members often it seems don’t have the time to research or click on the links we all often post.

    Some of the stuff isn’t on the ada site either but what you’ve collated from aero india and defexpo…..even Bharat Rakshaks data is well dated….anyway u guys can collate this info into a webpage…with help from us members of course incase u left something out….with links….so all of us don’t need to constantly rehash the same another guy comes out with LCA delta, old, 40 years in the making BS…

    Oh and the acronyms guys are getting confusing….perhaps can add that into the webpage as well…

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Pictures #2670142
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    From ADA again :

    Single-seat light weight all-weather multi-role air superiority Fighter

    My statement : When it enters IOC in 2006, it will be the most advanced fighter in the IAF even over the MKI.

    The general consensus now, the Tejas will kick the MKI in the air superiority role….thats some amazing dot connecting even for me…but my explanations WHY the Tejas will be more advanced OFF the top of my head here, work to do :

    1) (ADA again) Advanced composites constitute more than 40% of the LCA airframe including wings, fin and fuselage, resulting in significant weight reduction. Co-cured cobonded technology for fuselage components, fin, rudder, elevons, airbrake and landing gear doors has ensured cost-effectiveness. The radome is made of Kevlar.

    Infact, later production versions of the MKI are set to receive composites to further reduce its weight…again thanks to Tejas. The Tejas also has an advantage in having a much lower RCS.

    2) The MKI uses most of the Tejas avionics Now under vetrivale which are still undergoing upgrades for the Tejas itself. Namely the RWR Tarang MK II and a better ECM suite than Tranquil. Integration of the CAC from 3 modules into one. Overall i expect the Tejas to have a better EW suite.

    3) Better protection from softkill capabilities microwaves, and electrostatic shields under KALI testing..

    4) Better subsystems such as ECS (enviromental control system) and a Health Monitoring System for the aircraft for locating problems as they arise.

    5) A better glass and more user friendly cockpit than the MKI.

    Post more as i think of them, developing the avionics, CAC, ECM, EW has been a major spinoff from the Tejas to upgrading all the IAF aircraft.

    Of course throw the Bars into the equation and the Tejas is quite stuck…..AS Harry points the MMR has been tested and a phased array is under development for later versions…No idea as of yet how they will stack up…although weapons testing is to begin soon…

    But for the later future consider that under the MKI, India has received a deep license and tot for the Bars, and TVC for the AL 31FP…How long will it be these technologies are integrated into a Tejas AESA or the Kaveri?

    SO maybe my idea for a dark RAM grey, lowered RCS, TVC equipped Kaveri with LEVCONS, Phased array Tejas ain’t to far off….

    I loathe that Mig 21 statement, people now seem to connect the dots as to it’s suppose to replace the greater fleet of Mig 21’s and somehow it automatically supposed to be similar in capability….
    The fact now is while the Mig 21’s are being retired, its the MKI’s being inducted that are Right now making up for the loss….funny how no one draws a correlation to the two…..

    http://www.ada.gov.in/Activities/lca/lca.html

    http://www.hal-india.com

    http://www.bel-india.com

    http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Info/Vetrivale.html

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Pictures #2670579
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    Sigh so now that the canard issue has been stuffed AGAIN, we’re hearing its now back to LCD’s….since flex seems to be stating opinions here’s one of my own..

    From ADA : Single-seat light weight all-weather multi-role air superiority Fighter.

    So the Tejas is Multirole with a primary goal of being an air superiority fighter.
    When it enters IOC in 2006, it will be the most advanced fighter in the IAF even over the MKI, for all the reasons hashed before on the previous LCA thread (still active!) and on the ADA site. Yes even in its IOC avatar, and can only expect better with future block improvements being a TVC kaveri (tot from AL 31FP) and including phased array radars already in development.

    Weapons testing will begin later this year with PV2 to join soon, when it does enter squadron service in 2006, it may yet put a Fat Python, R 77, or Astra into any of the above fighters you mentioned, with help from its glass cockpit of course….

    Sorry, you’ll have to wait till the first squadron enters service to see a RAM coated Tejas like the rest of us….

    and again :

    http://www.ada.gov.in/Activities/lca/lca.html

    http://www.hal-india.com

    http://www.bel-india.com

    and please take this to the Indian defense news or LCA thread….

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Pictures #2671277
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    Sigh, some guys will just won’t give up on the same arguments for the Tejas, the horses just refuse to drink when showed all the info, hell there’s even a Thread still active where they can review all the data for the LCA for design, size, weight, performance, and multiple websites with continually updated info and flight performance and details….and we’ll still getting LCA no canards…too small….Thick nose….20 yrs….BS

    Why do people respond to this crap? Can people do their own research and possibly google for info…or at least read the thread on the LCA before coming up with daft statements….at least asking a question might get you further…if you can provide a Recent link to an article….

    All the arguments above have been dealt with time again, and time again another pakistani pops up somewhere to rehash the issue for the nth time in an IAF pictures thread….
    it won’t matter if someone takes the time to spoon feed him the info…he’ll pop up in the navy forum as well with a LCA has thick actuators argument….seems the thick ones are the ones that keep replying to such posters who obviously have an psyops mission to make…..

    in reply to: Project-15 Spec & Indian Naval Programme #2076408
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    Anyone know how DRDO’s Advanced Light Weight Torpedo (ALWT) compares with what seems to be the standard on India’s Ships, the SET-65E?

    from Defexpo 2004 harry pics

    http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_419.shtml

    http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/torpedo_s.jpg

    Cutaway of the Advanced Light Weight Torpedo (ALWT) developed by DRDO for both ship-borne and air-borne carriage. It can attack targets at a depth of 540 m, has a maximum speed of 33 knots and has a dynamic frontal sealing system for noise reduction and higher reliability.

    in reply to: Project-15 Spec & Indian Naval Programme #2076830
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    16 VLS Brahmos on one ship, these destroyers are truly the next gen after Dehli class, talk about razing the infrastructure, power the moment war breaks out and along with Gorskov truly blocking the whole sea lanes and ports in the arabian sea should the need arise….

    The navy is building up massively….eager to see designs of the P15A and any arto work out their for these new landing ship tanks? Given each Arjun at 58 tonnes how many can their carry to beach?

    No news of Naval Dhruv……but consider that the P15A might be able to carry 3 Dhruvs instead of 2 ka-31?

    Whatever said in a few years, the navy will be able to conduct its own and win its wars even on land with all in our vicinity….forget about the IAF and IA…the IN is starting to show some serious Jaws…..

    in reply to: IAF Questions #2676302
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    Given The first squadron of Tejas is due to be operational by 2006 and to start weapons testing soon, give a weapons loadout for 4 Tejas on a bombing run 15 mins into Red airspace on a terrorist training camp. On the way an important highway and bridge are to be negated as well….
    Assuming the Red’s are only able to scramble 6 F7 PG’s to intercept…what would the Blue Tejas need to carry to negate the offensive threat and successfully carry out the mission…

    All Tejas are Datalinked hence :

    2 Tejas lead (7 hardpoints) :

    1 x Litening II pod

    3 x R73DM2 (AA-11 Archer)

    2 x R77VVAE (AA-12 Adder)

    1 x AS-30L (Bridge)

    2 Tejas Back (9 Hardpoints) > 4000 Kg

    2 x 400 Kg Matra LGB

    1 x 1000 Kg Matra LGB

    2 x 250 Kg Matra LGB

    1 x Kh-29L

    Missile Specs BR

    Tejas Specs : Aeronautical Development Agency

    WOO HOO! Talk about a loadout! Anybody know if DRDO is contracting to make Laser kits of its own, an absolute must to retrofitting it stocks of dumbbombs…and with 2 Litening pods and datalinking…its pretty clear thats one mean MOFO of a plane…

    Let the straffing runs begin…thought of adding cluster bombs to soften up the targets…but in an enviroment plagued with stingers…low level passes might not be such a great idea…

    And who knows by 2006, IOC we might yet see ASTRA BVR on the load out as well..i don’t suppose Brahmos has an AG role….?

    in reply to: IAF Questions #2676692
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    What bugs me is the news reports for the IN trying to go in for P3C Orions, why do we need to buy stuff in storage, that even production lines have stopped for? To think about issues and hassles as spare parts etc….even the US seems to be contracting boeing to convert a 777 into a naval recce…
    Shouldn’t the better plan be to get a couple of replacement IL-38’s which are on their way….and think towards the future….perhaps an initial order of MTA’s for the navy, a small batch with the Sea Dragon kit incorporated into it….makes more sense to incorparate off the shelf Indian/Russian systems onto it then be pulling decades old Orions out of storage??

    Infact, the 15-20 tonne cargo MTA might serve to be a useful platform on many other counts being perhaps the installtion of the desi AWACS, More Air refuellers, IL-38 replacements etc….

    Get a move on MTA!!!

    in reply to: Does Elta have any plans to produce AESA? #2678491
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    YEEE HAAAAA!, OL Billy Bob Bishop been sniffing down south partner and im talkin REAL down south…in da ol A hol territory!! Come outta where da sun never Shines Son and See the Light!!!…..

    Although rumors of equipping the LCA with the Phazotron Kopyo instead of the DRDO MMR have proven to be false, the latter will most certainly receive a phased array antenna in the later stages, which is in confirmed development

    http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_418.shtml

    P.S. India is already producing its Phased Array Rajendra Radar for use with it’s Akash SAM…more can be read ere boy…

    http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MISSILES/Akash.html

    in reply to: Mig29-k #2680662
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    With the Naval LCA prototype expected to fly in 2007, it could be ready for service by 2012. Again, depending on delays.

    Harry’s article here says the first Naval LCA Tejas prototypes NP-1 and NP-2 are scheduled to fly by 2005.

    http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_432.shtml

    Looks like the CVBG would be low on fixed wing assets and the primary function of the 29Ks would be for fleet air defense considering that the IN doesn’t have anything like the SM-2 or Aster 30

    I was under the impression that at the last Defexpo, DRDO and MBDA signed an Mou to the effect to collaborate on the armament for the Project 17 frigates. It might yet be that Aster 15/30 will equip them and INS Vikramaditya

    http://www.indiadefence.com/stargaze.htm

    in reply to: IAF Questions #2684065
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    1) What i admire about the Tejas, is that the design of having a large cranked delta gives it a lot of advantages.

    Large fuel load, High vortices over the large wing and the crank, Large Aoa, Low Wingloading….seems truly unique.
    Add to this, LEVCONS on the Navy version and the Trainer and later blocks of Tejas adding to its exceptional maneuvreability….

    Tried to google for a plane, with LEVCONS, doesn’t seem to be another type out there…somebody post me a link?

    2) IAF is really upgrading its bomber capability with all types of new planes entering service being twin seaters…any reason for this choice….be it the 190 MKI’s, 20 Twin seater Jags, Twin mirages, Twin LCA’s.

    3) How many Litening LDP’s does the IAF plan to acquire for this fleet, are we getting into some tech transfer?

    4) The Tejas in a bomber role, seems to carry a massive amount of ordinance, assuming one port to carry the Litening pod, plan a carry out for one Tejas on a bombing run against a terrorist camp. Ill try to plan my own later…

    in reply to: IAF pics II #2684115
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    Line drawing overlapping Tejas and Mirage (Harry)

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=8053&stc=1

    Wing Loading Tejas, Gripen, Raphael, Eurofighter, Mirage 2000

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=8178&stc=1

    Models of Tejas Fighter, Navy, and Trainer showing 9 pylons

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=27748&stc=1

    in reply to: IAF pics II #2685650
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    in reply to: IAF pics II #2685652
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    The first 8 of the new 40 Jags, being made at HAL to be handed over, gorgeous camo..

    http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/8Jags.jpg

    in reply to: Gripen to Pakistan? #2687027
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    The first LSP for Tejas are currently being built right now, to enter squadron service in 2006. Tooling and Machining for this are already almost completed, hence the ACM’s recent order for the first batch of 40 aircraft to enter by 2008.

    Forget the MKI’s it’s the Tejas that although multirole will be the most advanced principle air superiority combat system in the Sub-continent when in service.
    With a high thrust to weight ratio due to composites, a double delta design enhanced by LEVCONS for higher turnrates, a much more advanced glass cockpit, and a high weapons load capacity, along with future improvements that ADA, HAL, and DRDO have started being a TVC Kaveri and a Phased array radar it’s the Tejas that will rule the skies over Pok.
    Looks like the pakistanis have a new gnat to worry about, after all they complained they couldn’t see the sabre killing gnat the last time around, due to its smaller size, talk about a LEVCON enhanced TVC kaveri Tejas with composite RAM…all I can say is pity…

    And with squadron size, 60+ squadrons aren’t unfeasable at all when you count that it includes transport squadrons, and Combat helicopter squadrons, and that allthough squadron no’s will be increasing, it’s the number of planes per squadron are set to decrease to around 20, due to increased networking control already in progress by the IAF.
    With Phalcons, AeroStat, Indra, and more Green Pine radars, more Nishant and Heron UAVS set to join or in service with the IAF it’s the IAF that’s already integrating network centric warfare for the Tejas by the time it arrives…not a certain neighbouring country…..

    And this isn’t even going into the Navy, or even Army which are upgrading their own squadrons of combat aircraft….being Mig 29K’s for the navy, or the Weapons System Integrated combat Dhruvs armed with Nag ATGMs, and the LCH….

    Add to this the new armed forces strategy of 8 integrated battle groups Cold Start, striking within a 48 hrs and a possible pincer attack into Pok from tajikistan and Kashmir and they have a lot to worry about…after all how much land do the pakistanis want to lose…they’ve already lost half their country as bangladesh, given away part of kashmir to China, lost more land including Kargil in 1971, and then Siachen.
    Please…don’t be so eager….our modernisation drive continues at full steam…on ALL counts…and numerous force multipliers are joining the fore…though they aren’t discussed as much as spare parts for f-16’s, or any 3rd gen option for the paf….

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