WTH. That actually does look cool. And i have been hater of the scheme since day one. Still, i wont give up on my hate. 😀

yess!. the top color and the russian sky blue simply dont match!. 😡
yess! whoever invented the scheme must be shot in public for the destruction of beauty of asset of the people. 😡

Su-34. New colours of the new Fullback for the Russian Air Forces!:)
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/2054851/L/

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh hurt my eeeeeeeyeeeeeees~!! 😡
couldnt some one taught them elementary lesson in color harmony ? 😡

“Rita” is the nickname for the automatic warning voice. “Pull up pull up”, “High G” etc. Warns pilot of problems. Well, Rita started shouting that first left engine was on fire, then right. Nothing happened.

Rita has given false alarms before on T-50. I have a file from October of 2010, where Rita said two hydraulic systems were gone.

nah!
they should use Putin voice for warning alarm!… there will be no complain anymore, false of not 😀

My Ronald Reagan worshipping friend,

you are looking at the french fry and missing the overall combo deal.

its not just a $10 million upgrade (which is in the low end.. not that I expect it to go as far as France’s $50-60 million Mirage upgrades)..

upgrading means you are keeping these MiG-31 in service, which means continuing to fund its spares, weapons, pilot training.

you want to increase these upgrades from 6-8 per year to 30, that means you got over 20 more airframes to take care of.

MiG-31 was and still good at what it does.. but its in its twilight years.. its the Steve Nash of combat aircraft. its replacement is on the horizon. Best keep a few MiG-31’s upgradeable, just long enough until the Pak-fa comes online. Pak-fa is the Blake Griffen of fighters.

You don’t see the Swedish upgrading all their Viggens to JA-37D when the Gripen was about to come did you?

grippen is normal fighter replaceable by alot of newer fighter
MiG-31 is a super warplane, one of its kind, the pinnacle of speed and power in modern airwar. to replace it an entirely new design must be created. PAKFA more than enough as flanker and fulcrum replacement, but not MiG-31

whatever win it will be american inside…

TNI-AU never bought any advance trainer as just trainer, Those advance trainers was and always have secondary attack roles (due to small size of TNI-AU fleet). This article from aviation week shows that : http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/asd/2011/05/27/05.xml&headline=Indonesia%20Orders%2016%20T-50s%20From%20Korea%20Aerospace

The old L-29 Deflin also have light attack capabilities, The Bae Hawk Mk 53 is wired for Sidewinder, and the Indonesian ordered T-50 is actually TA-50 and it’s LIFT capabilities. This also being confirmed by KAI sources and Indonesian Min-Def.

L29 have no attack capabilities, it is pure trainer …. which is why we grab 2nd handT-33 T bird during early East Timor integration in 70s….
Hawk 53 purchased in 80s for jet trainer for skadik 102. those time a pilot started with bravo, then mentor then if a future fighter/attack pilot he go to jet fighter transition training with hawk 53 before he goes to skyhawk/tiger squadron. The training hierarchy of TNI-AU keep changing afterward and the 2ndary support fighter role only seriously used at those embargo days….

indeed, they already have too many types

for combat
F-16, F-5, Su-27, Su-30, Hawk 209, TA-50, Super Tucano, future KFX

for training
KT-1, T-34, SF-260, Hawk, Bravo

😮

granted the diversity was caused by different types of embargoes in the past.. but it looks more and more like India syndrome!

perhaps it should be rationalized to

combat:
Su-30, TA-50, KFX, Super Tucano

training
KT-1, Hawk

SF-260 stored/not operational
bravo, partially been retired. All I saw in the sky today is T-34 and KT-1. KT-1 is purchased to replace the T-34. IIRC T-34 fleet are about 40 years old but the T-34 somehow still in very good condition despite its age so airforce finally using both. Our airforce habit is to use anything in its inventory until it literally fall away from the sky 😀 Actually we even manage to keep our C-47 in flyable condition til 1990s it retired because no one certified to fly it anymore 😀
F-5 already 30+ years old (1980) not sure how long it will operational. since it is very tough and durable aircraft we will use it forever 😀
so all our fighter are F-16, Flanker. future KFX actually never in the planning, it is a surprise project/purchase for everyone including our airforce brass…..

Hawk 109/209 we purchase as dedicated strike fighter replacing A-4

T-50, we purchase it as pure trainer not fighter or attack, it will replace former jet trainer BAe Hawk Mk-53 (only 4 left in our inventory and not sure in what condition).

Super Tucano as a COIN replacing Bronco….

Yes, governments do that. Buying two different things in two different contests means twice the negotiations, twice the bribes.
Our government has done it so many times it makes no impression any more.

add to that the financial dept. who stubbornly and idiotly want weapon to be purchased and reviewed each year/each purchase and whatever tiny detail in it instead of one big package with multiyear payment in the name of financial discipline during SMI era and quarrel between those and dod and legislative and whatnot I dontknow anymore 😡

Legislative also almost stop the flanker purchase during megawati era. They are against barter payment for a reason I dont understand. THanks God it is much easier nowaday because today gov’t is big oligarchy so everyone on the same boat 😀