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  • in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420472
    Seawreck
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    Lads,

    I have some interesting news for you. Today we found the SDC (Signal Data Converter) of the aircraft with Serial number 117. The model is a CV-2924(P)/ARN-103(V).

    From a quick research we found that this type of SDC is installed in to two types of aircrafts, U-21A and OV-1D. OV-1D are excluded since they do not match with the wreck.

    Do you think that we found something valuable???

    PS: Some more data that we found on the label are the following
    MFR 82260 US
    PN:8010000232-1
    Contr DAAB07-72-C-009

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420683
    Seawreck
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    I asked over on mil-spotters for details of any U-21 accidents involving U-21s in Europe in the 70s and apparently there were only two – this one and one in Turkey.

    The US Army used a number of these for communications duties in the 1970s and a number were attached to the local US Embassy. I suspect this was one but I don’t have access to my old copies of BARG to check further but I could ask Martyn Swann.

    This is very close to what we are looking for !! I have the same info from a friend…..could you please check it further?

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420687
    Seawreck
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    Unless I’ve missed something, why do you think it’s a US military aircraft?
    Non-US military operators included: Algeria, Israel, Spain, plus several central and South American countries…which would not likely be found where you are.

    And to point you back to my thread, T-44s were mainly used as multi-engine trainerts in the U.S. So that limits that. My records show only 48 were built and most are still in service.
    It doen’t make it impossible, just less likely.

    Also, as of 1995, 1900+ Beech 90s have been built…plus more since then, so it certainly could be a civil aircraft.

    And unlesss you’re sure it only has one mainwheel, you’re also looking at the possibilIty of it being a Beech 99/1900 airliner.

    We acquired this information from a former engineer of the US military base at Hellinikon.

    We need to check it. I am not sure that its a military version…..but a fellow diver (ex navy hellicopter engineer) verified that the configuration of some compartments proove its military ID.

    Day by day and hour by hour I am more convinced that its a U-21 or a RU-21Ute.

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420705
    Seawreck
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    Seawreck, go back to my post #75 and follow the link. Look at the U-21. It is a very old version of the King Air C90 which will account for the slight differences that you notice, as the guys have mostly been showing images of the more modern C90s.
    Thanks for posting this very interesting thread.
    Cheers
    27vet

    I think you are the winner…..it is a T44 or a U 21…..and I think the U21 is very close to the wreck.

    I thank you all for you kind effort !! this investigation still has a long way since we need to finalise the type of the aircraft……and then to reveal “how” “why” and “when”

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420710
    Seawreck
    Participant

    TEEJ….you are right and I really appreciate your extensive reply.

    I think now I am convinced….

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420827
    Seawreck
    Participant

    I rotated it……hope you will understand my point…

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420829
    Seawreck
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    Seawreck,

    I refer you back to post #20.

    The image that you are showing is NOT the cockpit area.

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=185538&d=1276515811

    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Beech-C90A-King/1631493/L/

    TJ

    I am afraid it is !!!

    If u see my post where I highlight the rubber areas you will understand that this is the begining of the cockpit window. And this is exactly my point……that the shape of this cockpit does not match with the Beechcraft.

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420831
    Seawreck
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    I think thats the nose locker youre looking at there.

    Fuselage cut down the middle? Curiouser & curiouser! Sound more like its been dumped rather than ditched.

    Nope….its the upside down cockpit area….and its not dumped. Dumped aircrafts are stripped of all equipment. This one has everything around it.

    Also at this side of the upside down cockpit we found this Green light…

    Lads, we will dive again on Wday…..could yoy please guide us where to look for more details?

    BTW it has an airway (photo 3) only on the left hand side.

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420889
    Seawreck
    Participant

    This is what we found…..

    As you can see its crystal clear that it cant be a Beechcraft since there is no such a cockpit desin for these aircrafts.

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420922
    Seawreck
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    Especially given that the wreck is upside and apparently buried in silt

    No its not buried. Its simply cut in the middle and lies on the sea bed.

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #420923
    Seawreck
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    me neither.

    I wonder what Seawreck has seen to make him identify a tandem seating layout.

    Lads, you are right…..I am very confused.

    Last weekend we made an extensive investigation around the cockpit area of the wreck since we believe that in that area is hidding the solution of the puzzle.

    So what we saw?? first we saw two rubber areas on the side of the cockpit. These rubber areas where cut (divided) by a column (we saw only the base of the column the rest is destroyed). We assume that this “column” was an arch.

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #421042
    Seawreck
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    Having asked elewhere, Beech U-21 67-18112 crashed on approach to Athens 24/7/1985

    I have to check this……its sounds promising…

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #421065
    Seawreck
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    It can not be a USAF aircraft.The USAF did not operate any King Air 90s..aside from a single VC-6 which is in a museum.

    It could be a Navy T-44, but most were used in the US as trainers. Most overseas based ac were C-12s..King Air 200s. I don’t know why one would have a window on the bottom since they’re trainers.
    The US Army operated U-21s, unpressurized King Airs, but they would be noticeable from their OD paint and square windows.

    Considering the thousands of King Airs produced…including some used for surveys and photo work, I’m not convinced it’s a US military aircraft.

    I don’t think you can tell a A90 from a C90 based on the photos. I think forum members called it a C90 because that’s a more current …and higher production version.

    Lads,

    I have bad news. I am afraid that it is not a Beechcraft at all. Today we had a new dive at the wreck in order to collect more info.

    We extensively checked the cockpit. Its a two seated cockpit but not side to side. Also the shape of the cockpit is a capsule or a bubble (you name it)

    It has control sticks….and the witdth of the fuselage is 5ft.

    I will upload photos this afternoon.

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #421082
    Seawreck
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    Obvious question, but needs asking, does it carry any markings on the outer wings? Some countries make it mandatory to carry the registration under the wings.

    Yes….but the marine life on the aircraft covers everything…

    in reply to: Can you identify this airplane? #421088
    Seawreck
    Participant

    For the record….I just acquired some information…..which needs cross checking….

    Its a Beechcraft King Air C90 (or a T-44) of the US Navy or Airforce which crashed at that site early 70s. The aircraft was based at the former military base of USAF at Hellikon which eventually closed late 80s.

    As you all know Hellinikon was the international airport of Greece until 2002.

    This accident is not recorded by the Greek authorities. This information is from an aviation mechanic of former Olympic Airways (flag carrier of Greece)

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