Thats definately a jet turbine at 4m08 in the video you can also see the prop hub is still attached with broken blade stubs. Which means this must be a turboprop aircraft.
The Twin Bonanza and Queen Air are piston engined aircraft.This has got to be a King Air C90.
Its defo a turboprop engine….we have found both engines….and its crystal clear that its a turboprop.
Did you notice anything else which will assist as to verify the type of the aircraft?
A video of the dive is also available…..enjoy !!
3. Seawreck mentioned Bendix avionics and I think that a wreck placed for recreational purposes would have been stripped of all avionics.
Correct !!!
The other possibility is that it was an aircraft wreck originally placed for the diving community?
TJ
This is impossible…..the plane has crashed. In a 100 meters area around the wreck its full of debris and equipment of the aircraft (radios,avionics etc).
Remember that the nose cone appears to missing from the wreck.
Yes…..the nose cone is missing….
Of course, once we get more photos, we can get a far better idea.
If possible, have someone sit beside the wreck while someone else floats above it as close to the centerline as possible.This will give us a more accurate idea of wing shape and scale.
Any close ups of writing, plaques or unique fuselage features will help too.
This Saturday…we have organised a re shooting of the wreck….
One more photo in order to make it more complex.
This photo shows a glass window on the belly of the aircraft. Is it common to have glass areas on a civil aircraft?
By edge, do you mean the wing tip? (IE the very end, tip).
Here is the only photo I can find of a T44 from below:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/3537509057_e358ce549b.jpgI think, however, we are dealing with a civil version of the King Air C90.
The instructions you have pictured would most likely appear on military and civil versions, I cannot read all of the text but it is a Caution notice. Possibly to do with the hot oil and plumbing in the engine nacelle?As has been mentioned, a military version will have been recovered for investigation, especialy from such an accessible depth.
My bet is on a drug runner ditching due to difficulties, pilot error (flying too low) or forced down by coast guard.
Wow !!
Drug runners etc !! you make it more exciting now !!
Ok lets see now a few things…..Dont be so sure that all military aircrafts are recovered for investigation….its a practice….but there are always expemtions. During the dive I noticed that the aircraft has no paint. It has this alu military cover which you meet mostly on aircrafts of 60s and 70s
Also….next to caution there is the word PLUMBING….therefore I think you are correct.
As far as concerns the wing edge (wing tip) you are correct again…
BTW did you see the pic of the rear wings? if yes do they belong to a T tail?
By edge, do you mean the wing tip? (IE the very end, tip).
Here is the only photo I can find of a T44 from below:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/3537509057_e358ce549b.jpgI think, however, we are dealing with a civil version of the King Air C90.
The instructions you have pictured would most likely appear on military and civil versions, I cannot read all of the text but it is a Caution notice. Possibly to do with the hot oil and plumbing in the engine nacelle?As has been mentioned, a military version will have been recovered for investigation, especialy from such an accessible depth.
My bet is on a drug runner ditching due to difficulties, pilot error (flying too low) or forced down by coast guard.
Wow !!
Drug runners etc !! you make its more exciting now !!
Ok lets see now a few things…..Dont be so sure that all military aircrafts are recovered for investigation….its a practice….but there are always expemtions. During the dive I noticed that the aircraft has no paint. It has this alu military cover which you meet mostly on aircrafts of 60s and 70s
Also….next to caution there is the word PLUMBING….therefore I think you are correct.
As far as concerns the wing edge (wing tip) you are correct again…
http://www.baaa-acro.com/Pays/G/Grece.htm
doesn’t show up any specific references to King Airs but there is a military accident on 25 August 2003 where the type is not specified. However, I have to say that if was a military airframe I would have expected them to have removed the airframe for investigation.
Now, a civil airframe perhaps on some kind of nefarious activity might just be allowed to lie where it went down.
Lesbos….is far away from the Saronic gulf where the wreck is located.
Its sure that its a military version since we found many printed instructions on the fuselage….
From a random web site
The King Air B200C equipped with cameras, cargo doors and special mission systems, is in service with the armed forces of Greece.
The wreck has not a “T” tail.
I think we are on the right track….
Is it possible to find a photo of a T-44 showing the belly of the aircraft?
I do have one more query for you guys…….The edge of the T-44 wing is squared….the edge of the wreck looks rounded. Are there any variations of the T-44 with rounded wings?
My only objection to King Air C90, is that the wreck main wheels seem to retract backwards. Just look at the wheel base next to the diver in the first 2 photos in the thread. There may be something broken and it just looks that way or maybe not. Seawreck, you’ve been there. Do the main wheels retract forwards or backwards?
Disclaimer: I know nothing about civil aircraft. I just look and compare photos.
Forwards….
I know its a bit confusing since one wheel seems to retract back and the other is standing like a forward. The one which is standing is just because some fishing nets were caught.
If you look carefully at the engine you will see that the engine has a rounded shape in order to allow the wheel to fit.
Few more things that make this investigation a hard puzzle….
The width of the fuselage leads to a twin seated cockpit but not a side to side configuration. We found that the aircraft had a stick and two seats.
The edge of the wing is rounded and not squared as it appears in most (or all) Beechcraft blueprints.
http://www.sea-wrecks.gr/gallery/index.php?iID=516
Cmon lads……HELP !!!
Me too.
Please click on the following link in order to see more photos of the wreck
http://www.sea-wrecks.gr/gallery/index.php?fID=18
Also, if you hit the following link you will see the rear wings of the aircraft which are familiar with a Beech 99 and not King….
http://www.sea-wrecks.gr/gallery/index.php?iID=514
I really look forward for your comments.