If you are talking about IJT-36, IIRC it was done recently with Russian engine.

Sorry, I meant the Tejas trainer !

Deino

Maybe something new !!!

Just found at Secret-projects.com

Pavel Bulat (a professor of aerodynamics, regularly writing on paralay.com) put out an image of the thing masked with scrim in his latest article.
It looks like the photos were taken before the recent visit of the government
delegation to KNAAPO.
Of course the pics are heavily edited.

http://www.paralay.com/stat/Bulat_12.pdf

other’s mind this is not a photo but a 3D rendering or CG …. :confused:

Deino

I spoke with the editor some days ago and he told me he had some personal problems which led to a delay in Vol 26, but he said everything is on it’s way now.

That’s the same I’ve hear + the fact that these “personal reasons” are reason enough for the delay.

The main problem IMO is that AIRtime is in fact a nearly “family busines” and esp. with such problems in mind everything else will be delayed.

….. as you say, the flaws are massive, but the publication is worth the price and very nice indeed.

Anyway …. and as long as Mel keeps AIRtime running “is worth the price and very nice indeed”.

Deino

Can you compare these aircrafts Deino please!Maybe I can learn something from you.But in my opinion no Italian aircraft can be better than a Russian original one.The original design of the aircraft did by the yakovlev design beureau as known!

Maybe because You still think it’s only the design and the origin, which makes an aircraft good or worse.
I have to admit that I’m not too familiar with both types esp. how they evolved after their cooperative beginnings, but just if I’m not completely wrong all they now still share is the overall configuration … so when both have the same or at least same configurations (like You say … the Italian one is a “copy” of the Russian original, but You have to remind that the Yak-130D has not much in common with the current versions !), and compare the differences within …

General characteristics M-346 – Yak-130

Crew: two – both
Length: 11.49 m (37 ft 7 in) – both
Wingspan: 9.72 m (31 ft 9 in) – both
Height: 4.76 m (15 ft 6 in) – both
Wing area: 23.52 m² (253.2 ft²) – both
Empty weight: 4,610 kg (10,165 lb) – 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)
Loaded weight: 6,700 kg (14,770 lb) – 6,350 kg (14,000 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 9,500 kg (20,945 lb) – 6,500 kg (14,330 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Honeywell F124-GA-200 , 27.8 kN (6,250 lbf) each – 2× Klimov RD-35 turbofan, 21.58 kN (4,852 lbf) each

Performance

Never exceed speed: Mach 1.2 (1,460 km/h, 915 mph) – 1,037 km/h (644 mph)
Maximum speed: 1,092 km/h (679 mph) – 887 km/h (551 mph)
Stall speed: 166 km/h (104 mph) – 165 km/h (103 mph)
Range: 1,890 km (1,181 miles) – 2,546 km (1,582 miles)
Service ceiling: 13,715 m (45,000 ft) – 13,000 m (42,660 ft)
Rate of climb: 6,401 m/min (21,000 ft/min) – 50 m/s (10,000 ft/min)
Wing loading: 285 kg/m² (58.3 lb/ft²) – 276.4 kg/m² (56.60 lb/sq ft)
Thrust/weight: 0.84 – 0.68

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aermacchi_M-346
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-130

You are correct, Your Yak-130 is way better …. :diablo:

Deino

Thanks Otaku!I have a special interest to the yak-130.I think yak-130 is the most beautiful and most advanced trainer-fighter in the world!!In my opinion it’s more advanced than most of the the old fighters!!!

… I don’t think that the Yak-130 is more advanced than the (now only) Italian M-346 !

But You are correct with “more advanced than most of the the old fighters!!!” … in Russian AF service.

Deino

This one……???

I still don’t see any canards…..

Ken

Because he changed/replaced a CG of a Chinese maybe-what-if naval version called J-11C with this one.

Deino

That model is so badly made in other regards that I wouldn’t put too much faith in its accuracy where scale is concerned 😉

Agreed … but do You have any recent dimensions for that missile ??

Deino