It means Basic Fighter Manuveres Deino.
Avidarts is all about Attack training/competition i think,.. could be wrong.

Thanks for the explanation … and I must admit, I don’t know.

[USER=”959″]Deino[/USER]

I checked the wing size of the sharp sword drone a drone they flew. Although I cant determine the weight of it but I do know according to the wing span and size the okhotnik and X-47B are way more bigger than whatever drone the Chinese have flew. I mean are there any sources that the Divine Eagle flew if so is its purpose not just recon but using weapons as well?

“By the way, which Russian designed drones is Russia currently using, and how long will it last until the Okhotnik is mature to be operational?”

Well as of now there is no operational 20 ton drone using weapons that I can find on the web. X-47B is cancelled but I am assuming the phantom ray drone and Okhotnik are the only actual 20 ton drones in development. However if okhotnik does become the 1st declared operational 20 ton drone while no country (for example china) has an operational heavier drone that can use weapons I have a better chance believing the Russians will have a unmanned mig-41 operational before the Chinese have the dark sword drone operational.

Not to offend you but if this forum had a survey I am sure the most jingoistic user from F-16.net would believe the Russians will have a photonic airborne radar, photonic radar satellite and mig-41 before the Chinese will have a quantum airborne radar, laser satellite and dark sword drone. There are a lot of Chinese users on this forum and social media sites that have owned my ass plenty of times with a lot of knowledge on aviation but I am sure that even they see some of Chinas projects as memes than they do as something coming close to reality or the proper term for this over-exaggeration.

Don’t get me wrong and I do not want to portray the image China is ahead or even better than Russia, but I sometimes – ok, always ! – have the feeling, that besides the USA and Russia no-one takes the Chinese seriously, especially from Russia.

Not sure where this attitude comes from and again I don’t want to say they are ahead, which they are surely not in all aspects, but they are catching up very fast, they have the will and especially budget to do, something I don’t see in Russia.

I even must admit, when I last spoke with Piotr Butowski about the future prospects of the Russian Aviation Industries, it was quite sad …

Anyway, I#m interested in all flying THINGs but I hate this constant overhyping of certain systems – and especially Russian ones from certain members only since they are designed on CAD, only since they have new materials or HUGE pods, BIGGER engines and so on … that all does not count especially since others do the same, they only do it differently.

Best,
Deino

cool beans. Def need to export to PLAAF!

Why? They have their own smaller Dark Sword … and it is flying since years. IMO drones are something, where Russia is surely – at least operationally ahead.

nur surely you won’t agree.

[USER=”959″]Deino[/USER]

It does say PAK-DA Scooter#2

Yes I know, but how likely is it that the PAK-DA will be shown? Therefore my point, he might have mixed it with the Okhotnik.

at least we know there is an Okhotnik prototype, but from all we heard so far, the PAK-DA prototype was never said to be unveiled this year … overall I have some strong reservation on this site’s reliability.

Type 003 carrier under contsruction

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IL96M engines are 10% more powerfull and more fuel efficient than IL96. Special mission Tu-204 about 10.5k range. IL96M with 24k range feasible. Faster training with two sets of crew. higher cruising speed.
https://weaponews.com/news/30351-the-second-plane-tu-214-pu-subs-transferred-to-the-ministry-of-defence.html

Would you do us a favour and stop posting BS until the Il96M reaches indeed a range of 24k km, the R-77 reaches 800km, until the RuN has ist next generation carrier fleet, the PAK-DA operational and maybe even the Su-57 in comparable numbers, that would justify to call it operational?

Otherwise the amount of BS you post is barely readable … I’m really not sure, what you smoke or consume nor why such an amount of deliberately posted false information, fake and BS is allowed here, in nearly each and every other Forum it would be called trolling.

There are various reports from several wallclimbers stating, that both J20s and J10Cs were spotted at CAC with WS-10 engines.