The Boeing 767 first flew almost 40 years ago, and flew 7 years before the first Il-96.
It is still in production for military purposes.
As such, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with Russia choosing an updated Il-96 for military or govermental service, particularly seeing as it is wholly Russian manufactured. From a security point of view, it makes sense.
It also makes sense keeping the manufacturing facility alive, and technicians employed.

edit: for interests sake, there is commonality on SOME of the fuselage manufacturing components stretching all the way through the decades through the Boeing 707, 727, 737, and 757… particularly the upper fuselage lobe.

Thanks for that post and again… an Il-96 based design might indeed – as I noted – be successful in these special roles, but – and here specificly to this topic Sino-Russian cooperation – why should a 40 year old refurbished design be economically and as such in this cooperation be more successful than a brand new design, that is just under development?

To think, CHINA would give up the CR929 and step in into further developing this dated design is absurd …

And you should be less rude with other posters, they may be right on what they say.

Il-96-400M is being currently developed, it will be used as a domestic airliner and base for special models for the air force. If they do this effort to be independent with civilian planes imagine what they would not do with their military models.

Il-96 was a great plane with excellent base design which is every bit as good as current ones. They will update its systems and engines and there is even talk about making it twin engine in the future, when PD-35 is available

Regarding AWACS, the talk is rather to make them smaller based on the Tu-214 than bigger than Il-76.
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Pardon if you feel offended, but [USER=”37608″]JSR[/USER] JSR’s poats are rarely coreect. So why should a dated and never successful design be better than a brand new one basen on latesttechnologies?
to develop the Il-96 is nothing but a waste … it will never be more successful in mind of the lastest Western airliners and only for a handful of special mission birxs fur Russia?

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We also ended up having an interesting discussion, which I’d like to bring here, as to whether the J-20 should be characterized as a fighter-interceptor or an air superiority aircraft.

To admit IMO it is not an interesting discussion since it is the probably tenth time this discussion is re-initiated with again and again the same arguments against all official statements, all official academic papers and most often circling for the hundredth time around individual perceptions of “dedicated, main emphasis and also capable of” … sometimes I gave the feeling the same who always want official proof for a certajn milestone or detail then refuse to accept official statements whenever it doesn’t fit their opinion! … or is it just for the sake of discussing?:confused:

News concerning Schweden

https://mobile.twitter.com/RAeSTimR/…32890693709824

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So it will soon be a real threat to Su-57’s exports”

I mean what countries do you think the Chinese plan on selling the J-31 that is considered a threat to su-57 exports? Looking at their ongoing su-35 purchases, depending on reduced costs of the Su-57 it wont be a surprise to me if the Chinese themselves start purchasing the Su-57s.

You are indeed correct, it remains to be seen, if China will sell the FC-31 (even if it seems by now it is exactly under development for that purpose) however to assume China will buy the Su-57 is plain ridiculous!
Hey, did you check the numbers flying operationally already? Given that logic – a reduced cost due to more being built – , it would be more logical that Russia would be interested in the J-20.

You guys are indeed funny…:D

A new image … :applause:

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To admit – and I’m sure some won’t like my opinion – I’m more impressed than by the Tempest.

Probably they can this time ask the Chinese for help? :angel:

Given this timeline and surely including additional delays, the PLAN is surely close to launch their 004 carrier by that time.