Here are more:
http://top81.jschina.com.cn/top81bbs/thread.php?cid=1&rootid=3952374&id=3952374
http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/htm_data/27/1205/699878.html

Deino

Congrats to CAC … 2002 has just landed following its maiden flight ! 😀

Photos hopefully later …

Deino

A nice psed image … :D:diablo:

Anyway this might be a picture at CAC in a few years.

Following the SinoDefence Forum, no. 2001 was moved to Yanliang (according to wall climbers on CJDBY). The plane didn’t land after it took off yesterday … so we can assume, the next phase of flight testing to begin ! … which however will mean we won’t see them as often as during the last months.

Anyone talks about what happened to the landing gear here?

Hmmm, yes they are different, but I think there are not really gone but maybe now they simply close after landing !??!

Finally 2002 began with the taxi-tests …..

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back to Chinese military air power..
is the J-16 really a Flanker copy or a new aircraft? Strategy page says its the former

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htproc/articles/20120506.aspx

Chinese Counterfeiters Nail Another Russian Jet Fighter

May 6, 2012: China has apparently copied the Russian Su-30MK2 and is operating it as the J-16, claiming that the aircraft is of Chinese design. More unauthorized pictures of the J-16 are showing up, via Chinese with cell phone cameras and Internet access. It’s pretty clear that the J-16 is a copy of the Su-30MK2.
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First of all I don’t know what this guy has taken but either he can’t distinguish a Su-27UB from a Su-30MKK, he is intentionally posting bull**** or he is plain stupid. Propably is only reading KANWA !!!! 😀

First of all; by simply comparing these “cell phone camera” images, which were showing the J-16, each one with at least a minimum of understanding can clearly see that this is a standard twin-seat-Flanker with the single wheel front gear, no IFR-probe and most noteable the canted fin-tips. (Just in comparison to a twin nose wheel gear, IFR-probe and sqaured tips)

Therefore no need to discuss any further.

Besides that as also noted, the question remains, what – if ever – is this mysterious J-16 ?? As far as I know this version will be simply a AG-optimised J-11B, which – similar to that strange behavior at Sukhoi, where each and every new Flanker received a new number – will propably feature the above mentioned features (similar to the J-15), but again so far we haven’t seen that type.

Deino

Quite right.
And i find it weird that some posters often claim that China are or will produce its own engines to replace the Russian AL-31FN(J-10) and AL-31F(J-11) engines, and yet we see more import orders.

It looks like the AL-31FN engine are at present time not going to be replaeced anytime soon.. If someone has any other source, pls show?

The WS-10 Engine series, however do replace the AL-31F from Russia, but at what rate? Are they to be installed on those Russian produced Flankers Su-30MKK/MK2?

Sorry, this tread is really getting funny ! … as so often the truth lies right in between both extremes.

YES, the WS-10A hat a troubled gestation, which took too long, was surely quite expensive (as all learning processes are), led to yeras of delays and a field of semifinished J-11B waiting for their engines at the SAC tarmac, delayed the installation of the TH on the J-10 but …. one has to understand the Chinese way of handling such things. They always take a two-way option in case one fails:

– therefore in parallel to the prolonged development, they ordered still additional AL-31F’s for their Flankers and FN’s for their J-10.
– then they added the TH to the J-11B, which – again delayed on the first production block – has now finally matured and as far as I know, no Flanker is rolling of the production line at SAC without the TH.
– the next step as just tested with no. 1035 is the installation of the TH with the J-10B and when this is certified for a single-engined fighter I’m almost sure all new-built J-10B will have that engine.
– that however means not thta they still have to import additional AL-31F and FN, since – even if modified and running thru a SLEP at the Chengdu
Aeroengine Factory – several of them have right now and more will have their service life expired. As such they need replacement engines and since – even if propably interchangeable as tested on one J-11A – I think they will still use the reliable Russian engine in a similar way the USAF uses both the F100 & F110 at the F-16.

Therefore to assume the WS-10 is unreliable doesn’t hold the trueth – in the same way as it is surely not as matured as the AL-series, but (similar to the JH-7 and Su-30MKK used both for similar roles) the PLAAF relies on both engines surely for decades to come.

Deino

PS: I hope I’m not regarded a stupid “Chinese Fan boy”. :diablo: