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  • in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2484483
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    I find this kind of thread a bit silly. I would imagine most of us are civvies who have access to very limited information. I mean… who of us really know what the hell either a MiG-25 or SR-71 could do or has done. Any information that is published is probably not showing the true capabilities of either aircraft.
    Any military personnel who really know would only divulge what is allowed.
    The discussion here looks pointless to me. I will stop.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2484549
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    Firebar… you should save all this info for the book you should write about the MiG-25 😀

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2485743
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    Exactly…. Hawk is still useful and still competetive in the military market. Civilians will have to wait a while before Hawks will be available as private machines.
    The 346 sacrifices useful range for an astonishing climb rate, and it carries little more than Hawk can. Yak-130 is a much more sensible. These two should be compared more with the Alpha Jet, as it also has two engines. Hawk outsold Alpha Jet by a very big margin.
    Both Yak and 346 have larger planform and frontal areas than Hawk…. bigger targets if used for light attack roles. Both Yak and 346 have this 40 degree AoA flight capability. To me this, and twin engines, appear to be the only attributes the Hawk doesn’t have. Everything else is close. The cost of running these aircraft must be jolly close to using some of the aircraft they are supposed to be leading pilots into!
    If BAe continue improving Hawk, I think it will go on for a long time. It still has scope for some improvement, in my view.

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2486626
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    I think I heard that too. I hope it stays in UK. It’s the last all-British fast jet, unless BAe are coming up with something to show up the M-346/Yak130. I would be surprised if they had such ideas, but would love to work with them if they had!

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2486727
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    RAF is just one customer. Even so the T.1a has (or at least had) a point defence role where loitering is an attribute. Other customers certainly use Hawk’s load flexibilty. It’s incredible wing also allows it to lose a lot less energy in turns.

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2486763
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    Are we just talking about cost? If we are, then maybe the L-159 is very comparable to the Hawk. On performance it isn’t all that close (closer than others for sure). Hawk can carry much more, much further, can go higher, and I think it is slightly faster. I think modern jet trainers need to have more than just advanced flying training roles, because there are some very good turboprop trainers out there now.

    The reason there are certain jets now under private ownership is probably due to their higher running cost, and also their airframes can no longer perform their operational roles. Private ownership usually means very low hours of use compared with operational use.

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2487070
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    ‘Any idea what the M-346 would cost?

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2487082
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    I know…. I can’t afford one!… this year…:D

    I had a look around on internet. The trouble is you can’t compare a 2001 price of one aircraft with a 2007 price of another. Also I imagine the equipment specification can make huge variations on the price.

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2487138
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    Yes… this sounds interesting.

    I am pleased to hear my favourite, the Hawk, has some good economical attributes, and a bit surprised the L159 is different, but I can’t see why either.

    More info appreciated….

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2487357
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    Well, Hawk 200s have radar. ‘Dunno about any of the others. Gripen is not a dedicated fighter. It’s swing role.

    in reply to: Best/Worst looking military jet. #2487645
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    Pretties:-

    F-5…. Julia Robert’s parents must have been designers at Northrop.
    F-16…. then they moved to General Dynamics
    Gripen… modern F-5
    Aermacchi 326
    Hunter…. of course!
    BAe Hawk… Britain’s Ferrari with wings
    MiG-15… like the Caterham 7 !

    Uglies:-

    Nimrod… Ugly humans get facelifts… Pretty aeroplanes get the opposite.
    Thunderchief… no comment.
    Buccaneer… This eats at McDonald’s
    Lanssen… ‘used to like these until I saw one…. beached whale !

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2487877
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    Well, that is the problem. Do we wanna compare these jets purely as trainers or do we want to count in secondary light attack roles as well? Because for light attack roles the M-346/Yak-130 looks as a much more universal platform than the Hawk or L-159 to me.

    ‘Sounds like you know the answer to my original question then….

    “What can you do with an M-346 that you can’t do with a BAe Hawk for less expense?”

    Please enlighten me.

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2487942
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    Well, if we are talking about pure trainers here, then the figures for load carrying, endurance and loiter time are next to meaningless, IMHO.

    I think we’re not talking solely about ‘pure’ trainers (although, it appears that is what the M346 is supposed to be). The RAF Hawk T.1 has been primarily a trainer, but also has a point defence role and can take light attack duties. Elsewhere in the world Hawk is sold in other roles too.

    I note a trend away from jet trainers toward turbo-prop (Tucano, PC9, PC21, etc). Economics, I guess. The TP aircraft do tend to be ‘pure’ trainers, and I think the only jet trainers that will continue will be those with further roles. Aircraft like Gripen are so easy to fly it’s probably pointless doing much advanced flying training in anything else. System training is what’s required.

    Anyway, high lift/drag ratios make any aircraft more useful than those with low.

    in reply to: Alenia M-346 #2488279
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    Thanks for those responses. ‘Pretty much what I was thinking. I just thought I was missing something clever about the M-346.
    I agree with the view that the L-159 is a more worthy comparison with the Hawk. I think Hawk’s wing is slightly superior, and offers better load carrying, better loitering and endurance… i.e. more lift for less drag, but the L-159 is very close.

    in reply to: Hmmm #1205871
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    Jolly expensive firewood!

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