Originally Posted by Speedy
“I think Norway used Saab to get better deal on the F35s. Pretty much the way Korea screw dassault to get a better price for their F15s.”Hmmphh…. LM and US government will have the last laugh.
and you can bet we will hear this repeated over and over until the F-35 starts to enter service.;)
Somehow you misquoted me…. I know nothing of Korea and Dassault. My bit was only the “USA and LM having the last laugh”
I hope I’m wrong about JSF, but I think it will prove to be too expensive for a lot of it’s customers, and will be operational only a few years before it’s obsolete. This may prompt “You ARE wrong” replies, but time will tell, and we will all pay for the answer.
maybe…
I think temperature cycling is the problem for small turboprops on short hops. The piston engined BN aircraft can sustain this.
AFAIK… BN Islander is the 2nd most built airliner in the the world, the 1st is the wonderful B-737. My figures might be out of date, ‘cos the incredible A318/9/20 series are here now.
Gorgeous !
I reckon right now the best replacement for the BAe Hawk is a new BAe Hawk. I can’t think of any other aircraft I would like to see used by the Red Arrows. If there will be some future need for some kind of 5th generation trainer I am 100% sure the ‘aboninable no men’ in UK will succeed in ensuring it is made somewhere else.
‘Just updated http://spitfire3d.com/
There will be some more interesting stuff next year when I will be able to measure parts from disassembled wings. The wings are the priority for a while, but I will return to the rest of the aircraft.
‘Doesn’t make sense… if there will be no impact on jobs, one ship takes 12 months more and the other 24 months more, it’s going to cost more…. not less.
‘Sorry to hear LCA isn’t doing so well. I am a bit surprised we haven’t seen any video clips of it being flown with some aggresive agility like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNEL_44qBRo
‘Same goes for the Alenia M346. It make one wonder if these aircraft are up to much. Neither are so early in their test regimes that they can’t show some interesting flying.
‘Makes it a pain to maintain. It’s less easy to inspect for leaks or defects, and impossible to touch in summer sunshine. -70C at 40000’ and about +50 on the ground can’t be good for airframe life.
Besides, you can’t appreciate the shape of a decent aircraft in black. Keep black for BMWs that dummies sleep in on motorway overtaking lanes.
The cost of persuing unsustainably expensive programs like JSF.
Am i the only one who find it peculiar that buyers of Gripen buy so many two-seaters vs one-seaters ?
With an airforce of ~20 aircraft, why half of them two-seaters ?
Hmmm, good question. I had wondered the same, but didn’t think of mentioning it. ‘Any answers?
You’re right, Ross. I am working in from the skins. Your fuselage stuff looks superb, and successfull results can be seen on your website. I will stick with the wing for now. It’s a big project, and my timeplan shows I will be on the wing for quite a few months.
Justin.
The idea of the elliptical planform was very likely not Mitchell’s, but his execution of it was better than in other wings, in my view. His input was an interesting sweepback (measured at the 25% chord position), the NACA 2200 series section, and what seems to be the perfect incidence and washout. It makes the Spitfire wing unmistakably different from all other elliptical planform wings.
The structure under the skins isn’t all that complex. There are just a lot of parts, but they are all easy to make. I think the most difficult parts to make in a Spitfire, are the wing nose skins, and the glycol tanks (just above the prop reduction gear).
A good friend of mine has gone back to basics with Mitchels masterpiece and gone back in time and start studying the spitfire from a design point of view…
http://www.spitfire3d.com/wing.htm
Interesting stuff as we will be using his work in time.:D
🙂 Thanks for the plug, Ross.
I will try to update it once a week with progress. I will be concentrating on the wing for a while, but then move back to the fuselage.
I have had some feedback suggesting I thumbnail the pictures. Good idea. All suggestions welcome.
Cheers,
Justin