I have the original cine film of the bomb drops that I have now put onto VHS. I suppose now I should get them digital and up load to You Tube.
Sky Track
I know that an option for “us” to watch 558′ movements might well be installing a Sky Track system and logging on to the web to find out where she is – not that we will not know of course!
Would you be prepared to pay a one off or annual fee to track 558’s whereabouts?
Evening all, I have a little question thats been bugging me. 558 has had its radar removed and a lump of metal put in its place, now, isnt the radar quite a vital part of her internal organs? And anyone know why it was removed and what is now doing its job?
TIA
Bex
The H2S radar will be removed no doubt due to parts not being very human/enviro friendly & it is not needed. It is a very powerful device when switched on!
The crew will submit a flight plan and as with all civil aircraft contact ATC through the flight route.
Bruggen- I think a lot of the Bull**** has been generated from other than
sceptics of the project. Amongst this has been the famous ‘fund her or we scrap her’ which will go down in the annals of preservation history. Other ones that spring to mind are her test flights needing a ‘permit to display’
and the never ending inability to answer the question of how much she will cost to book for a display and why should an airshow book her when all the Vulcan enthusiasts will see her at one.Here is a little estimate based on TVOC figures
Rebuild to date at £5.5 million
Operating cost £1.2 million per year
Total £17.5 million
That is using TVOC figures – realistically add inflation at 6% and allow for underestimating and there could be a project cost of £25 million for a flying life of ten years.
David
Though I can not speak on behalf of TVOC, I know that the booking cost for a display is within a price band that other private jet operators charge.
TVOC know that inflating a display cost just because its a Vulcan will not gain the support from airshow organizers. TVOC have discussed this with them at there annual get togethers.
It is then for TVOC to make the most of the appearance of the aircraft at an event to attract public support in the way of donations and merchandise…and of course we need industry to also find support within their corporate world.
Can’t remember….
Was there not a Forum member who promised to eat a tub of jellied eels if the Vulcan flew….
Please stand forward……. or PM me please.
Young Bex.
We all have to remember this Vulcan will be a “lite” version. She will be lighter than before and she may not be so vocal at the high end.
Holding her on the brakes and bringing up all four up, might not be so regular as the good ‘ol days of 91!
OK Moggy… You win, I loose…. ROTFL?… Havent got a clue. Sorry! Perhapse you’d care to enlighten me?!!!
But getting back to my first post, does anyone know if the Vulcan team are still planning to conduct any of the flight testing from Waddington?
Sorry back to reality –
I think Waddington is still open to them, but I was lead to understand the RAF wanted to charge TVOC on a per landing/overshoot basis at any of there base’s.
However Waddington were keen to have 558 back around June/July so the aircraft would have been classed as airshow traffic, and maybe the fees relaxed.
One more before the Mods tell us off…..
Roger Murdock: Flight 2-0-9’er, you are cleared for take-off.
Captain Oveur: Roger!
Roger Murdock: Huh?
Tower voice: L.A. departure frequency, 123 point 9’er.
Captain Oveur: Roger!
Roger Murdock: Huh?
Victor Basta: Request vector, over.
Captain Oveur: What?
Tower voice: Flight 2-0-9’er cleared for vector 324.
Roger Murdock: We have clearance, Clarence.
Captain Oveur: Roger, Roger. What’s our vector, Victor?
Tower voice: Tower’s radio clearance, over!
Captain Oveur: That’s Clarence Oveur. Over.
Tower voice: Over.
Captain Oveur: Roger.
Roger Murdock: Huh?
Tower voice: Roger, over!
Roger Murdock: What?
Captain Oveur: Huh?
Victor Basta: Who?
Airplane II
Did’nt you serve Over, when I was Over Done? Nah, I was Over Under when you were under Done………….
That’s correct, 500′ was the normal training height by day.
exmpa
I thought be mid 1970’s the atomic delivery was by the Navy, and the RAF went on to 21 x 1000lb’ers?
Yes, it’s good, the musiC however is a bit ropy, especially with the end credits!
XM600 featured in a ATV program in 1973 Where the Big Birds Fly – Calendar Special. The crew flew XM600 out to Goose and the TV crew followed them around. Interview by Nav Robbie Stewart of Gulf War 1 fame.
The internal shots show the crew flying to practise a nuc bomb drop from 500ft? and also the RPM guages show 0% power because the internal shots used the crew trainer at Scampton/Waddington.
When the Vulcan spec was first issued in 1946, no one had much idea of what it would be like to fly at 50000 ft.
The problem of teh escape of the crew from a pressure cabin of an aircraft traveling at high speed presents many difficulties declared a Farnborough paper on the “The Vulnerability of a Future Bomber Aircraft” in Feb 1948. A cabin may be which may be jettisonable in a emergency appears to offer the most satisfactory solution.
A jettisonable crew compartment was written into the Vulcan Spec. The captain would press a button whereupon the control linkages would sever and explosive bolts would push the pressure cabin clear. Hinged fins would thenstabilise the tumbling nose before a large parachute came out from behind to lower the cabin withthecrew still strapped into there seats.
Avro spent a lot of time on this and just could not get it to work and they convinced the Ministry to abandon the idea.
They looked at a second canopy about the rear desk, which would not had been a problem for the designers.
Basically the Ministry did not ask for all seats to be jettisonable, so the designers did what the 1946 spec asked them to do.
If it’s anything like normal America just pull up in your pick-up and watch to your heart’s content!
Agreed! I watch the RAF Odiham Family Day yesterday from a small country pub south of the airfield.
I got the whole pub out into the car park in rain to watch the flat display – even the owners left the pub and my mate looked after the place!
The RA ‘s were turning over us, which was nice, but at the end en route on the circuit Red 5, headed straight for us in the car park, bast of smoke as he went past and a wing wave.
Made us very proud!
See … it still can be done!
Ouch.
Art can certainly write in an entertaining fashion though!
Yes Damien, I though it amusing considering the setbacks. Nice to see a team on a worth while project with a sence of humour.
Wonder if the first flight will be a non public event or maybe it will be down to a $50 raffle;)