BME, over the years.. i’ve noticed that you seem to just not like European weapons and prefer American alternatives 😮
but to be fair, I hear nothing but problems and controversey over NH-90.. why are militaries picking it again? its a beautiful helicopter.. in fact best one of its size range.. but i may favor an updated Mi-17 to cut costs and still have something that can get the job done unless its ASW stuff.
We have quite bad experiences with european equipment, both in overcosts and delays. Tiger HAD, over 60 € millions the unit, and ten years after the deal we have 0 HAD delivered and obviously 0 operational. Comparing that to the Aegis program of the Navy, that directly led to export 9 ships to Norway and Australia, or the EF-18 program who gave us +100% offsets…after a great evaluation campaign, a thing that for example NH-90 never had, was bought directly from the redneck MoD at the time, without any kind of evaluations, with an enormous price tag.
But the fact is that our prime minister only needs a phone call from Berlin, and we will be in any other project, european obviously, with a 10 years delay, and a 150% overcost.
Broke, Broke, Pacifist and will only do peace keeping missions, thus the death of German Aerospace but the thriving of German armor
We are the first broke country that is paying +30 € million for each NH-90 TTH. A damn good deal. Sure.
Damn, Rafale is so cheap that our Army should have bought some in place of the 24 Tiger HADs. Just 1.5 billion €…
Or they could get the cheaper C-295….(just a little promotion, save our local jobs and all that)
Iraq is using some refubished C-27A, they will sell them there with some interst.
It´s Afghanistan, and all the planes are ex-AMI.
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Here you have, from Ceuta.
Looks like the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetsov and escorts have entered the Mediterranean? The Russian Navy has been very active using Morse Code networks during this deployment.
There are some russian navy ships in Ceuta right now, not the CV. Probably are part of his group.
– Marocco: problem of consistency between Dassault and DGA, the problem is suppose to be solved by the “war-room”. There is still the issue that the customer didn’t have much money in his pocket. What conclusion can be drawn there ?
Morocco has spent in his air force more than 3 billion dollars in the last years (Astrac, F-16, T-6, C-27, Mica, Amraam, Assm, Maverick, AIM-9M/X, Harm, GBU, Damocles, Sniper etc)
The first offer of the Rafale was about 2,6 € billions for the whole package for 18 Rafales, the second one was a mix of Mirage 2000+Rafale. And they got at least the F-16 for about 1.6 € billion not that bad.
At least in JDW they claimed that the whole jordanian planes were in such a bad shape, that just one arrived flyworthy to Kenya.
If the navy has to fight against the lobbyist three or four years trying to get some surplus Seahawks from the USN (and already flying the model), imagine a F-35 deal…
In fact we are a captive market of Eads. And no issue for the transport aviation, supposedly the old Casa project of a plane of the same category of the C-130´s is going to be made at last. Or at least they are saying that.
To be totally honest, even if for export failure, we can conclude that something went wrong, can we be sure that it’s always because of the same reason ?
Between Korea, Marocco and Switzerland, we have three totally different failures and no way to find a common reason.
They thought that after the deal for the Mirage Astrac (Damocles + Mica + AASM) and a sweet credit to Morocco, the Rafale was done. At least they got a second prize with the FREMM, Puma, AMX-10Rc and VAB upgrade.
What revenues? We had to pay over 1.5 billion for 18 Tiger HAD versions and 6 HAP conversions (already over one billion paid and we have one HAD…), over 30 € millions for each NH90, 9 € millions for each Ec135 of the Army aviation (yeah totally civilian, painted on green, 81 millions for 9), overcosts and delays in Ef-2000, A-400 and all that crap, and if we want to export the Casa planes we have to move our ass like before the integration, can´t see any advantage. Our Ef-2000 partners got more share of production and then they cutted their orders, or even sold second hand planes, and so on.
The worst thing we ever made was integrate CASA in EADS.
Why should it? Surely India can do its own evaluations, & why would Spain’s budget problems be thought relevant to the needs of India’s armed forces?
Well the money ready for 45 tth´s now is for just 38, almost 1.3 € billion, guess the nfh version price…