News still add some confusion.So seems the late pilots (rip) didnt eject?Thats weird at least.If im not wrong Phantoms have zero zero seats so maybe they were just trying to bring the Phantom to crash in international waters and eject in the last moments.

Is it known if plane was found in syrian or international waters?

there is a video around made by some guys at a beach and suddenly you hear AAA fire.
first some slower burst and then an intense one.Do the sirians have 37mm or 57mm deployed there?i heard chicoms have made some sort of network firing device for them,then they also have a lot of Shilkas what would justify the fast bursts in the video

Havaarla Jh-7 maybe little underpowered by i dont think Al-21 on Su-24 offer better range with same load than Licensed Speys on the Jh7.

Yeah, i don’t doubt that PAK FA will be able to supercruise just fine, but i just don’t understand the need of having such a huge afterburner. Its max speed is limited to Mach 2, so if it will be able to cruse at lets say 1.5 Mach and 11.5 ToT, what is the point of 6.5 ToT on top of that to make it go Mach 2? Of course, the speed/power ratio is not proportional at all and maybe PAK FA does need around 18 tons to go up to mach 2, but it just strikes me odd that F-22 with roughly same numbers in terms of full thrust go 2.4+ Mach.

Then again, maybe 18 tons =/= Mach 2. Maybe PAK FA just needs 15 or 16 tons to get up to Mach 2. So engine is actually oversized thrust wise in terms of what speed the airframe is able to go to. Who knows. 😀

All interesting questions.there used to be 2 well informed guys here RSM55 and Kilcoo,,,they would have said smth.

One thing comes to my mind.The huge thrust on Ab is because of the perspective of PAK DA using same engines.About top speed maybe to avoid peel off issues caused by high temp and maybe also the fact its gonna have a blocker in the inlet

Well, 15 bucks wasted. The article didn’t reveal anything new at all. It has been hinted in the past that cracks has been discovered on T-50-1, and hence the reason it is not flying. “is believed to have ceased”. It has, but it doesn’t mean T-50-1 won’t fly ever again.

Izd 30 is starting to reminds me of D-30F….

Also, sensor on the underside of the nose is not part of KS-U.

Berkut reminding on power output i suppose ,since i think D-30F6 would be quite big for the PakFa…and old tech too without mentioning the fact it requires some complicated inlet solution

EDI,ur name is familiar to me,,u must be an Albanian 🙂

Doesnt matter at all,try not to spam and back up your claims in these board of knowledgeable ppl

That’s an interesting note, since it would “confirm” a report I was just translating: Following this there were alltogether 39 J-7 (w.o. any additional letter) produced: at least 15 in a first pre-serial prototype-block (maybe built from knock-down kits (:confused: here I’m quite unsure !??) + 23 more of which 12 were later delivered to Albania.

After this the PLAAF requested several modifications, improvements, of which 6 were choosen to be incorporated into the next block … finally only 4 modifications were added to the serie and this version is/was called J-7I = J-7A. However all 34 aircraft (block 01-02) were rejected because of quality issues and only from Block 03 on they were delivered to PLAAF units (the 3. Test Regt. at the FTTC and one regiment within the 7. Division. Certification was granted in April 1975, however additional delays, problems until block 06 & 07 manufactured from June 1978 on. Serial production of this version ended 1981 after altogether 188 Maschinen (with 187 ausgeliefert incl.40 as “military aid” to North-Korea).

Deino

Deino they used them as much as they could and for an isolated country hadnt many support means.However they were reliable i think,lost just two of them,one that stalled during some maneuvers and the second had a bird ingestion while taking of.
the only problem they suffered was with engines but they bought some from Germany Nva stocks.

they also kept original bort numbers since 1973,from 201 to 212.maybe u find smth.
also they were capable of carrying only 2 Aam