CLEAR WARBecause it makes sense militarily to fight from an overwhelming advantage, that’s why. If your enemy has 10 planes, you don’t bring 10 planes, you bring 50 and completely dominate your enemy.
Different tactics, different enemy, different war. And Iraq had a much larger A/D network. And a lot of the Coalition losses were at low-level during airfield attacks in Iraq.
Nice try.
Let me cleairafy, what I ment If you look at ALL NATO press releases they started out with 160 Planes “double” Serbias planes, but by MAY they had brought 1000, why is that, because They were losing 100’s of planes, thats why. 😀
CLEAR WARBecause it makes sense militarily to fight from an overwhelming advantage, that’s why. If your enemy has 10 planes, you don’t bring 10 planes, you bring 50 and completely dominate your enemy.
Different tactics, different enemy, different war. And Iraq had a much larger A/D network. And a lot of the Coalition losses were at low-level during airfield attacks in Iraq.
Nice try.
Let me cleairafy, what I ment If you look at ALL NATO press releases they started out with 160 Planes “double” Serbias planes, but by MAY they had brought 1000, why is that, because They were losing 100’s of planes, thats why. 😀
CLEAR WARThat is true because Hitler who knew all and was good in everything was the only voice and last word 😀 :rolleyes: that is in part one of the reasons Germany lost WWII.
The Soviet Union biggest flaw was it`s lack of consumer goods development that retarded the quality of common day life technology such goods as cars and electrodomestics and that proved fatal in computer technology.
That lack turned soviet avionics less capable for a while.
ACTUALLY YOU ARE 1000000% WRONG THE SOVIET UNION’S cars are great when it comes to working, but when it comes to the looks, it laked what was being sold in the west.
CLEAR WARThat is true because Hitler who knew all and was good in everything was the only voice and last word 😀 :rolleyes: that is in part one of the reasons Germany lost WWII.
The Soviet Union biggest flaw was it`s lack of consumer goods development that retarded the quality of common day life technology such goods as cars and electrodomestics and that proved fatal in computer technology.
That lack turned soviet avionics less capable for a while.
ACTUALLY YOU ARE 1000000% WRONG THE SOVIET UNION’S cars are great when it comes to working, but when it comes to the looks, it laked what was being sold in the west.
CLEAR WARHow many IZAF and Serbian MiG-29s were blown up on the ground? How many IZAF FULCRUMs ran off to Iran?
A baseline MiG-29S with the R-77 vs an F-16C with AMRAAMin a BVR fight? You don’t want to know the answer to that question.
That’s because the sum total of those two occurrences was 1, if you’re talking about the air-to-air arena. And why bother trying to comment on anything regarding Serbia when they insist they downed dozens of fighters and even a B-2A? If you want to talk about someone not speaking logically in this instance, look at Serbia, not the West.
NATO came with 1000 Planes to Serbia, which only had 79 War Planes, why so much airpower if MiG-29’s are infireor :confused: :rolleyes: 😀 BTW it’s NATO thats speaking ilogically, U.S. lost 38 planes in Gulf War 1, now what type of tech did U.S.& NATO have over Kosavo for them (U.S./NATO) to lose only 1 F-117, 1 F-16, AND A UAV? :confused:
CLEAR WARHow many IZAF and Serbian MiG-29s were blown up on the ground? How many IZAF FULCRUMs ran off to Iran?
A baseline MiG-29S with the R-77 vs an F-16C with AMRAAMin a BVR fight? You don’t want to know the answer to that question.
That’s because the sum total of those two occurrences was 1, if you’re talking about the air-to-air arena. And why bother trying to comment on anything regarding Serbia when they insist they downed dozens of fighters and even a B-2A? If you want to talk about someone not speaking logically in this instance, look at Serbia, not the West.
NATO came with 1000 Planes to Serbia, which only had 79 War Planes, why so much airpower if MiG-29’s are infireor :confused: :rolleyes: 😀 BTW it’s NATO thats speaking ilogically, U.S. lost 38 planes in Gulf War 1, now what type of tech did U.S.& NATO have over Kosavo for them (U.S./NATO) to lose only 1 F-117, 1 F-16, AND A UAV? :confused:
CLEAR WAR:rolleyes: Check out the kill records of the F-15 and F-16 and then look at the battle record of the MiG-29 and SU-27, please.
The kill ratio of F-15/16’s is not fair, they (U.S.A.) fight MiG-29’s with radars and electronic jammers that are not the same as in Russian MiG-29’s so ALL in ALL U.S. has never realy went up against Russian MiG-29’s
CLEAR WAR:rolleyes: Check out the kill records of the F-15 and F-16 and then look at the battle record of the MiG-29 and SU-27, please.
The kill ratio of F-15/16’s is not fair, they (U.S.A.) fight MiG-29’s with radars and electronic jammers that are not the same as in Russian MiG-29’s so ALL in ALL U.S. has never realy went up against Russian MiG-29’s
CLEAR WARIt amazes me that reasonably educated people still can’t seem to tell movie fiction from reality. Our UK friends should be thankful nobody’s made a stupid film about the modern RAF! Think of the harm it would do to its image around the world. 😀
“Top Gun” is as much about the U.S. military as James Bond represents the average UK civil servant.
Note to all: Get a life.
Behind the scence the U.S. Gov was sponsering Movies like “TopGun” in oder to propagandize the American People to believe the U.S. Military was better than Soviet Military.
CLEAR WARyawn…… White CLowd, buzz off
Why do you keep caling me White Cloud?, and what’s your point, this man (PIKE) did exist and he did write about the New World Order, so what’s your point?? :confused:
CLEAR WARyawn…… White CLowd, buzz off
Why do you keep caling me White Cloud?, and what’s your point, this man (PIKE) did exist and he did write about the New World Order, so what’s your point?? :confused:
CLEAR WARAgain, when exactly was this information written? 1890 by the man you say, or 1990 by some wacko? Evidence please… 😎
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike 2. Here’s about him on “YAHOO.com: http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Albert+Pike&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8
CLEAR WARAgain, when exactly was this information written? 1890 by the man you say, or 1990 by some wacko? Evidence please… 😎
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike 2. Here’s about him on “YAHOO.com: http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Albert+Pike&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8
CLEAR WARRubbish! The reasons he allegedly gave for the wars happening were simply wrong, as I posted.
TW
If what your saying is true, (Which it’s Not) then how come we’re about to witness his (Pike’s) Pridiction of WW3 which will by instigated by the same Group, (Zionists) who started WW1 & 2 he stated in his books the 3rd World War will be instigated between Islam & political Zionism, matter of fact here’s a brief exerpts of ALL 3 World wars he said will be started by them (Zionist/Illuminati) 1. World War1: Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.
“The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.” 2
Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.
2. World War2: Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.
“The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.” 3
After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.
3. World War3: “The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”
CLEAR WARRubbish! The reasons he allegedly gave for the wars happening were simply wrong, as I posted.
TW
If what your saying is true, (Which it’s Not) then how come we’re about to witness his (Pike’s) Pridiction of WW3 which will by instigated by the same Group, (Zionists) who started WW1 & 2 he stated in his books the 3rd World War will be instigated between Islam & political Zionism, matter of fact here’s a brief exerpts of ALL 3 World wars he said will be started by them (Zionist/Illuminati) 1. World War1: Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.
“The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.” 2
Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.
2. World War2: Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.
“The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.” 3
After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.
3. World War3: “The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”
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