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  • in reply to: General Discussion #361476
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    in reply to: If Conspirousies don't Exist How #1947844
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    in reply to: New Russian hypersonic ballistic missile? #1819363
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    Has it occured to you that Russia is building nukes not to fight the US, but someone else? For example, China will run out of space and resources in a few decades, and sparse Russia is looking pretty good.

    Have you ever noticed U.S.A. in 2002 said it was pulling out of the ABM Treaty and Russia was saying “No this is not good” and all of a suden we came up with our new Hypersonic Missile,while “constantly till this day (2006) announcing “This missile can defeat ANY missile shield there is” Now who do YOU think it’s built for? 😀

    in reply to: General Discussion #361500
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    The reasons for the start of both World Wars are well known and explained in detail in countless historical studies. They did not require any hidden external forces. And WW2 was not about the Jews (that was a side-issue for Hitler) it was about Germany revenging itself for WW1 plus going on a war of conquest in the East.

    Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum

    WRONG!! this man was born in 1809 and died in 1891 LONG berfore WW1 and LONG LONG before WW2 he clearly talked about 2 WORLD WARS which happend so this IS the “EVIDENCE” that shows there IS a “NEW WORLD ORDER Conspirousy”

    in reply to: If Conspirousies don't Exist How #1947868
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    The reasons for the start of both World Wars are well known and explained in detail in countless historical studies. They did not require any hidden external forces. And WW2 was not about the Jews (that was a side-issue for Hitler) it was about Germany revenging itself for WW1 plus going on a war of conquest in the East.

    Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum

    WRONG!! this man was born in 1809 and died in 1891 LONG berfore WW1 and LONG LONG before WW2 he clearly talked about 2 WORLD WARS which happend so this IS the “EVIDENCE” that shows there IS a “NEW WORLD ORDER Conspirousy”

    in reply to: How Did the MiG29 Handle in the German Air Force? #2601551
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    Combat Aircraft (not Combat Aviation) is not an American magazine, it’s a British publication. Nice try with the anti-American bit there, but you failed.

    When it counted, F-16s had no problems actually shooting MiG-29s out of the sky, either.

    Britsh/American your all the same, and F-16’s only shot down MiG-29’s in Iraq and Kosavo because they had to have help from thier good o’l “AWACS” friends, had they NOT have it or if Iraq and especialy Serbia had thier own AWACS, it would have been a verY different story, but like I said before more than 300 NATO crafts where shot down in 99, and Iraq shot dowm 38 U.S. back in 91, so all in all YOU FAILED. 😀

    in reply to: Russia to sell 29 air defense systems to Iran #1820086
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    Even General Leonid Ivashov says Official 9/11 Story is a lie, the same with the “Official Story that Iran is trying trying to build Nuclear bombs: http://www.voltairenet.org/article133909.html

    in reply to: GPS, Galileo and missiles #1820087
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    Recent operations (ie Kosovo or Gulf war II) has shown the importance of GPS guided missiles, and the US superiority in this domain. I was wondering whether the Europeans have missiles guided by GPS (i.e. is there a list) and, if yes, whether they are ensured to benefit from the GPS secure P (or M) code for their use at all time (is there for instance a NATO wide agreement for such a service?)?

    The Galileo postioning system should be up (pun intended) and running by 2010, and the Europeans will then have a system competing with the US GPS. But, (owing to the Brits) such military use of Galileo has been ruled out, and European will remain dependend on US goodwill in the foreseeable future.

    The U.S. was NOT “Superiour” in anyway in this catagorey in KOSAVO, the only hit 13 of Serbia’s 500+ Tanks, Serbian Military used modified Microwave Ovens to operate with thier door’s open to interfear with NATO’s GPS guides on their (NATOS’s) Bombs, which caused Doezens of them to not hit thier targets, so much for yoye “Supieriour Hardwar”. 😀

    in reply to: How Did the MiG29 Handle in the German Air Force? #2601821
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    We have always stated our MiG’s are better than your F-16’s but you don’t believe, so according to your Latest Issue (Jan-2006) “Combat Aviation” (an American Magazine) East German MiG-29’s have defeated WESTERN aircraft in exercises threw out the 1990’s.

    in reply to: Russian Air Force in deep crisis #2601827
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    Well as a distant observer it probably comes down to who was using it. In Arab hands a T-55 or T-62 for that matter is a bit of a deathtrap. In Isreali hands it seems to be quite capable. In Soviet or Russian hands it is hard to say, as the wars they have used such vechiles in they tend to not face enemy armour and tend to be used as armoured direct fire artillery support.
    Like anything an aircraft or tank or ship for that matter is a part of a system. Take it out of that system and it might not work so well. For example a Mig-29 in Yugoslavian service. Not maintained properly. Getting airborne without a functioning radar armed only with IR guided AAMs. Patchy radar coverage due to jamming and radio monitoring. Against the Airforce of NATO with all the latest bits and pieces each airforce member can afford, and the US brings all the other bits that none of the other NATO members can afford like all the JSTARs and Jammers and sneaky beaky satellite imagery. After practising flying against West German Mig-29s what surprises did the Yugoslavs have left? Does it make the Mig-29 a bad piece of equipment? Replace NATO F-16s with Mig-29s of the relevant SMT model (to allow for the fact that the Mig-29s the Yugoslavs had were point defence interceptors not multirole fighterbombers) and it probably would have performed as well. The general view of course is that the Mig-29 is crap… it failed to do its job in Kosovo and in Iraq as well. Of course there is the Flanker so that we can still wave that at congress when we want more F-22s or F-35s or if someone thinks Europe could get by with fewer Typhoons or Rafales or Gripens…

    There were always the nay sayers and the hawks. The hawks… the T-80 is the most powerful tank in the world and pictures showing drawings of M1A2s are shown everywhere. The Naysayers jump up and say… no… the T-80 is just a T-72 with smoke grenade launchers and rubberised armour on the sides to defend against automatic cannon fire. The reality is that the T-80 is a very different tank to the T-72, with much more capable electronics and much more advanced armour.

    It is a common result. Sometimes the Hawks aren’t Hawkish enough… Sunburn was a cracker or a weapon in the early 80s… sometimes the Naysayers have it right… the T-72 has some serious design flaws regarding ammo stowage… of course contemporary M60s blew up with a penetrating hit too… but everyone forgets that.

    A self critical view may never arrive. When (If) it does the US would be respected and liked around the world rather more than it is now.

    GET OUTA HERE with this CRAP: 1. Most of the Iraqi Tanks in Desert Storm were T-55/62/64’s and few T-72’s AND most of them were destroyed buy LBG’s dropped by F-16’s and Aphachie Helecopters, only like 4% of the Iraqi Tanks were destroyed buy M1a1 Bradlies in Tank vs. Tank battle, and each time Iraqi Tanks wheather they were T-55/62
    64/72’s did NOT have 1. DU rounds, 2. ERA’s, 3. NightVission/Thearmal Vission Equipment AND 4. Iraq Tanks only had 1 Miles reach radius of it’s Main Gun, while M1 A1 had 2 mIles reach, and 95% of the Tank on Tank battle happened in the DARK were Iraqi’s didn’t have night vission,or thermal vission. So, all in all U.S. ain’t thougher than Russia, and U.S. NEVER addmitts the Iraqi tanks were weaker than M1A1’s because of “the equipment” it didn’t have so this lends credibility to what we Russian have been saying all these years “U.S.” Lies/Exagerats about it’s so called “Advanced” Military Equipment and tactics compared to “Post 1960” Russia. P.S. in “Desert Storm” The U.S. lost 38 Planes, 1999 Yugoslavia had more advanced SAM’s AAA, and MiG-29’s than 1991 Iraq, so are you gonna tell me you really believe that “NATO lie”, that only 1 F-117, and 1 F-16, and a UAV were lost, in 78 days of fighting, if Iraq brought down 38 aircraft in 1991 then, Serbia surely would do more, and by the way The Serbs have/still say they shot down more than 300 NATO planes and over 400 NATO Cruise missiles, but U.S. Government told them if they want NATO to compinsate for the re-buildment of Serbia then they should not disclose thier (NATO’s) losses.

    in reply to: Typhoon class TK 17 Arkhangelsk has been refuelled #2069799
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    “If it wasn’t feared then U.S. wouldn’t have spent so much trying to counter it, don’t listen to these yanks they are always coming up with “Fantastic” excuses why they don’t fear this or that about Russia’s military, it’s all a public front so not to look scared/weak to there American public. ”

    Another Troll.

    LOL

    Is that all this board has to offer is America bashers?

    Ive got news for you losers.

    All the bashing in the world wont make the Russians stronger or the U.S. weaker.

    In fact just the opposite is likely to happen.

    And then “Clear War” you lose yet again.

    LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Theres nothing I have lost, all there is is you claiming I’ve lost and Russia will be weaker than U.S., so YOU lost.

    in reply to: Typhoon class TK 17 Arkhangelsk has been refuelled #2069802
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    LA is said to sacrifice depth for speed. I’m sure it can do better than 250m though, FAS (who are an adequate source for US weapons systems) says 300 safe/test and 450 max, which sounds about right IMHO. For Trafalgar, the RN says 400m oprational (probably the same as test) and 600m maximum, although that would imply a safety factor of 1,5 (like the US) instead of 1,75 like they supposedly use.

    Hm, I can’t seem to see the difference between Kilo and Akula in this regard. Both are double hull designs with cylindrical mid-ship sections, right?

    I realize that, I was not trying to compare them in general, just their diving depths.

    You’d need to have seen one in a drydock to understand, unfortunately there seem to be no such images (no photographs of the real thing, that is) on the net. The only ones I’ve seen are in books. Looking at this CGI of Astute you will see what I’m talking about though:

    http://www.whitebase.pe.kr/board/data/update/1082793313/astute.gif

    Speaking of Astute, there is this image of the real thing under construction at BAe (but no Trafalgar!):

    http://www.baesystems.com/gallery/sea/images/ASTUTE-CLASS-SUB-IN-DDH_hi.jpg

    Actually there is a couple of pictures of it in the New “Janes Submairines” Book.

    in reply to: Typhoon class TK 17 Arkhangelsk has been refuelled #2069829
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    I don’t have a problem with John and I respect him very much as his/their site is very large and extensive. For a beginning person it has a massive amount of information to digest and it is very interesting in that way. Yet on the other hand when you are going in more detailed things then his/their site is lacking. A logical thing of course as it would require many persons to maintain a site this big and keep it all updated.

    As for questioning the silence of Russian subs and not the other way round. Pretty logical, due to the end of the Cold War, many things have been told, Submarine officers gave explanations with what they did, Navy persons wanted new toys. This is the reason why so much is known about the SeaWolf, the pro guys used several of the capabilities to convince Congress, the anti’s used them to tell it was useless or even bad to do such things. This way lots of things come up (much against the submarine community’s will). By explaining what they did, it came up what the Russians did too, the capabilities of their subs became clear and they were nonetheless weaker than NATO’s with all the trailing and pictures.
    That is why no one questions them and not the other way around. Add to it all the errors and accidents happening to Russian submarines and you get the picture. K-19, K-219 and others.

    Trident, they could have integrated the sail much better if they wished to do so. Yet they didn’t so it must be that this turtle back (which is btw a common name for it) is not that disadvantageous, it would have only required some extra lines, plates and tests to accomplish it.

    I posted the picture of that, so what’s the point of mentioning that? It really doesn’t mean anything in the way of “proving” she is one of the quietest. Btw, she is certainly one of the quietest considering there are only three better than her, Le Triomphant, Vanguard and Ohio.

    Increased flow noise, the volume is much larger, with a blunt nose like Typhoon’s you have a much larger increase of waterflow creating more friction (by both shape and surface) and hence flow noise, created by accelleration of water and pressure changes. It’s btw the reason why towed arrays are only used at slow speeds, the flow noise would disturb them way too much.
    Add to it that the increased displacement on its part needs extra power to propell, so, two reactors instead of one, two pump systems instead of one, two propellors instead of one, eventhough you can quieten such systems, you can eliminate all noise by not installing them (which is the case in US subs).

    So basically you’d send out your worst submarines, having a larger risk of seeing them all being taken out and of course keep your very nice splendid submarine in port where they are a fixed target for ICBM and SLBMs of the enemy, I’m sure the Soviets didn’t think that way as they were scared of a first strike of US and NATO, which would then according to your logics mean that they wouldn’t retain anything. Basically I’d do it the other way around, keep the pieces of crap in port and send out the best, giving them at least some chance to escape the tailing subs and at least fire one missile (which is the reason why they wanted such a high rate of fire). And if they don’t succeed at least you still have some back up although they’d most probably wouldn’t survive anyway. But at least this gives you some chance.

    Firing missiles, Severstal indeed has 10 of them and your point being? She shouldn’t train because she needs those 10 missiles?
    And yes I am aware of liquid fuelled missiles (and even maintain further development ont hem) but do you have any idea why they didn’t just toss them out and keep the solid fuelled ones if that was so easy??? In that case the “super typhoons” would still be in service and the Delta’s would be gone. But that isn’t the case is it?
    As for the missiles being destroyed by US-Russian treaty, you didn’t do your homework, they stopped construction of the missiles and all the others were shot in practices (that Suchkov’s statement). If US would want them scrapped than it would have demanded the remaining 10 too.

    And I’m more scared of a well trained Delta IV with live missiles than of that one sub that tested a dummy missile that is not even in service. So if you think it’s not important to fire missiles then I’m sure the Indian Navy shouldn’t do tests either, the Russians tested Klub, no reason for India to do so?

    Typhoons will have to wait longer than that, the first systems go to the Borei, and that will only come in 2008, the Typhoons then will still have to go in refurbishment for this missile, so more likely 2009-2010.

    Would scratch that “survivable” out of it. Bigger doesn’t mean better. Delta was also doubble hulled and torpedoes are made to counter that. The outer hull is only a hydrodynamic cover nothing more than that, it doesn’t withstand impact as always thought.

    The US sailors respected the Akulas as they knew it was the best USSR had, but fear was not the word. Fear they had for the UK submarines and with good reason.

    As for SeaWolf argument, that was to show you that they often lie to the Congress, well not lying, just exaggerating in some areas to convince them. The Alpha’s only operated at 400m depth but they said 600m, another reason to get a SeaWolf no?

    If it wasn’t feared then U.S. wouldn’t have spent so much trying to counter it, don’t listen to these yanks they are always coming up with “Fantastic” excuses why they don’t fear this or that about Russia’s military, it’s all a public front so not to look scared/weak to there American public. 😎

    in reply to: Israel submarine launched strategic cruise missile? #2069923
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    about few years ago,report from newspaper thatIsrael has successfully conducted test firing submarine launched cruise missile.
    while some report that the cruise missile may be just another extended range version of harpoon.some may not be so sure,there is suspect that missile may be equivalent of tomahawk cruise missile,design for only one purpose in mind,to attack iranian nuclear facility

    Yes your correct: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/farr.htm

    in reply to: Typhoon class TK 17 Arkhangelsk has been refuelled #2069928
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    Thanks Neptune for those beautiful pics , They are fantastic , So the Typhoon has a 7 blade skewed propellor , Any chances that the propellor might have been changed at the time of launch ???

    What are the two holes on either side of the plane behind the propellor in the pic shown in the link below
    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=106225

    Also compare these two pics http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=106229
    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=106210

    It seems after the upgrade she has got some new kind of TAS ???( Pelamida towed array )

    I’m not sure what those holes, but I think there water propulsion tubes, (kind of like what Squids use to move around in.) The New U.S. Sub “Virginia” uses them to.

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