Upgraded J-11B’s would be nearly as effective and China can build as many as see wants………………:eek: Again, that doesn’t include large numbers of J-10’s and the J-XX!:o (maybe even PAK-FA) Sorry, the Typhoon argument isn’t holding water.
…. in a possible cold war scenario between China and Japan, the day China would get the PAK-FA then Japan would get F22s…. still to see how the JXX would be capable (still a paper aircraft…)
If we look at the equation right now Typhoons and F15s would be enough to counter J10s and J11s menace, if China could build them as they wants same for Japan with F15 and Typhoons…………..
Well, that interesting question coming from a Australian. As most believe the Flanker is unbeatable and superior to everything except the Raptor. As I said the question is not that the Typhoon maybe better than say a J-11B, Su-30 MKI, or Su-35. Yet, how much better………..
Quote: http://www.dera.gov.uk/newsite/home_2.htm
British Defense experts made an attempt to compare the newest Russian fighter SU-35 with its modern western analogs.
During the evaluation the experts simulated the fight between Su-35 and some western airplanes (such as F-22) to determine how many Russian planes will be destroyed. Mind that Su-35 is the upgraded version of Su-27 and relates to 4++ aircraft generation.
Analyzing the plane’s characteristics, the agency imitated tactic and technical peculiarities. They were “equipped” with appropriate missiles, the pilot’s tactic was also impersonated.
The statistic was summmiresed and showed the following:
F-22 – 10,1:1 (one brought down F-22 for more than 10 SU-35)
Typhoon – 4,5:1
Rafale 1:1
F-15C 0,8:1
F-18D 0,4:1
F-18C 0,3:1
F-16C 0,3:1[B]
Just my personal opinion………..:cool:
Sorry, it likely the JASDF equipped with Typhoons could face more than 4.5 to 1 odds vs the Flanker. Which, would also be supported by large numbers of J-10’s. That of course doesn’t even include possible future models of PAK-FA’s or J-XX’s………..like I said I personally don’t believe the Typhoon provides the level of Air Superiority needed by the JASDF. [/B]
…. as of today China has not ordered Su35 yet to my knowledge and I do not think they would do in big numbers. Just imagine Japan orders 100 Typhoon I do not see 500 Su35, that by the way would take forever to be built, for what concerns the J10, If you are in a Cold War scenario between China and Japan, you could always use your F15 to take care of them.
Just remember that airplanes needs to be built in a decent way and right now the Typhoon has got 4 Final Assembly lines plus a fifth to be built in Saudi Arabia and Japan might have one as well. So if we think about an escalation Japan could get airplanes way much sooner then China.
…. as of today the Typhoons are doing a very good show in all 5 air forces that are using it as for what concerns the Lightning we are just talking about what is promised, as we do say in Southern Italy “It still have to eat pieces of bread ……”
I also read that the Partner of the Eurofighter group were inexperienced in fighters, well it was mainly a British design and for sure Alenia and MBB knows something about military airplanes and also CASA did have some experience
Time will tell….
Going back to the topic I guess the predict the winners rely on what everybody was looking for so excluding Netherlands since the government has already spent a lot of money on the F35 I see
Suisse : Typhoon
India : Rafale or F-18
Brazil : Rafale
…. do not forget that it looks like that also Oman has chosen 24 Typhoons
Regards
Swiss : Typhoon
Indian MRCA: F-18E or Typhoon
Brazil FX: Rafale
Libya: Rafale
Nederlands: F-35
Swiss : Typhoon
Indian MRCA: F-18E or Typhoon
Brazil FX: Rafale
Libya: Rafale
Nederlands: F-35
Thanks…… love them
Here’s a true gem in the mud that you actually dun see everyday.:cool:
This one looks presumably to be one of what would eventually be 36 Su-25K Frogfoots (inclusive of 4 UBK two-seater) enroute to N.Korea, making a stop-over at a snow-covered airfield somewhere in Russia back in late 80.
It’s noteworthy for there’s a short description in russian that reads “Su-25 for client”
http://vaul.ru/091/savgoronii/1.215.jpg
Kazakhstan’s L-39C Albatross
If I had to choose between a dinner with Jessica Biel and the North Korean Su25 I would go for the latter …….
Some good findings on airlinehobby.com this morning
Libya An26
http://www.airlinehobby.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=594088703
Very Interesting Marocco C47
http://www.airlinehobby.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=593842372
Nepal HS748
http://www.airlinehobby.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=593842568
Papua New Guinea Nomad
http://www.airlinehobby.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=593659811
Colombia C47 in 69
http://www.airlinehobby.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=593659640
Regards
…. at the end I have to thank everybody that have posted their photos and help me double my collection here is what I have found together frm Chad and Senegal
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lots of things on african aviation photos today, it almost make my day