One day, with any luck, I’ll get a chance to read mine.
DS
That is good news. Whilst not the main reason for being a FOD,, free entry to the practice days is a welcome perk. There always seems to be a lot of flying, the atmosphere is great and the Tank Bank is empty 🙂
I would not object to making some donation to the special interest day, even as a FOD (I know some members do not even take advantage of the discounts available on airshow days, in order to keep Dx well funded), but the full whack and long queue was discouraging.
I am more worried about the prospect of a large part of Dx closed over the winter. I pop in from time to time and it can be quite quiet, but surely this will discourage even more visitors?
DS
Hats off to Dx for realising they were going to annoy and potentially alienate an important group of their supporters.
Now – how about a ‘rolling’ period of winter hanger closures, with some open mornings or afternoons only?
I am still unsure if staff numbers are a real reason to close – I have been there before where there are no staff around and I’ve had a hanger to myself – including a particularly creepy experience in 3 (IIRC – when the Lanc was in there) during a massive thunderstorm.
Also, I had not noticed they were well heated!
DS
I have to agree with you I went there aged 12 and then again recently I hardly recognised the place most of the amazing artifacts gone to be replaced with so called interactive crap, like a glorified amusment arcade.
The only part left worth looking at was the aviation hall.
I was told by a staff member the only reason its been left alone is because its too difficult to remove the aircraft and that it was only a matter of time before that goes to.
Off coarse you have to encourage Children but I dont remember being bored there age 12 I spent all day and had to practically dragged out.
The changes in general in this country and in London in particular over the last 30 years are quite beyond belief. 😡
I visit the Science and Natural History museums two or three times a year with my pre-teen kids (both girls) and they still love it. Compared to the dry dull and dusty racks of fossils they used to contain (not just the exhibits:dev2:) when I was a kid, I think the way museums have developed in recent years is quite fantastic. Anything can be displayed, but as long as it is shown in an interesting way, people will come along to see. Kids must be encouraged to interact or they will stay at home on the Wii.
I am always struck by the fact that – when observing school trips to Dx – the kids seem to get more out of the playground by the cafe, than Hanger 2. But is that really surprising?
Oh, and what is wrong about having other languages spoken by the staff at museums? We live in a multi-cultural society, with – shock horror – foreign visitors to our museums. If it was OK to drop bombs on them when the planes were in service, why can’t we explain why and how they did it, now they are not?
DS
Just don’t tell the Mrs that I was wrong again….
am I right though that there was only a pilots seat and anybody else sat on a wooden stool or something ?
Just as long as you don’t tell mine that I was surfing at work 😉
Yes, the pilot say on a proper seat and the observer sat on a bag behind him. I think it might have been the cement bags used for ballast!
DS
They certainly did. I previouslt posted a photograph of one somewhere on here.
Regards,
kev35
You certianly did! Thank you. At least one of them was on its way to Israel when it mysteriously turned itself into little bits…..
DS
I may be wrong (as my Mrs often tells me) but didn’t this 1/2 scale model show the need for design changes which resulted (and this is where I’m struggling to remember) in the longer undercart which if you see above, even at half scale is very different and also a different angle or size to the rear fuselage section ? If I’m right (and as I tell the Mrs, that can happen) then the 1/72 plan won’t be the same ?
Not quite – the tall u/c was the only way to alter the wing incidence when they realised that the take off parameters were not going to fit the required spec. They had already fixed the production jigs for the actual wing incidence, so all the could do was to make the old girl taller.
They discovered that the u/c was too weak when the first prototype collapsed on landing. Despite mods it was an ongoing problem.
I think there were might have been some alterations to the 1/2 scale U/C done to make it more like the main production one later on? I too struggle to recall:confused:
DS
Belgium Stirlings
Thanks – interesting article on civilian Stirlings as well!
Tantalising note about one on its was to Israel:eek: They certainly got to Eygypt……….
DS
If memory serves we have discussed the half-scale Stirling on the forum a while back. There are some pictures of her flying, and in the Farnborough wind tunnel, on the public domain, so to speak.
There are no official plans for it that I have ever seen. Bearing in mind that it was dumped and burned at some point during the war (having apparently been pranged in a landing accident whilst on use as a company hack) and that all the official Stirling design papers were also lost in a fire, I doubt if a plan for the half-scale still exists.
I doubt we will ever see a flying version now – the nearest we might get is a large r/c scale model.
DS
In order to keep the peace at home, I do Friday (as an annual leave day from work)and Sunday with some mates. The atmousphere on the friday is very nice – the tank bank is empty and I can geek out at my own pace around the hangers. Sunday is a more ‘airshow’ type outing with some less fanatical friends:)
I am around on Saturday to keep the Boss happy too – we all win!
DS
Andrew – thank you very much for this statment – the very best of British to all of you.
Daniel
This is great news – the Pantons are to be applauded. I am quite sure that they will have no problems in getting funding for this project, if they need it, as JJ has a lot of friends.
I do not believe that EK will suffer in terms of visitors – it will be an added bonus to watch her taxi then take off!
I do, however, disagree with what many have said about JJ being ‘theirs’. Yes, technically it belongs to them and they can do what they like with it. However, (and I am quite sure they are very aware of this) they are also custodians of a priceless example of our aviation heritage and as such have a duty to care for it, and to display it in the best way they can. I am sure the decision they took did take this into account and I think it is a correct one.
DS
A very hearty congratulations to everyone concerned, especially Smudge!
May she have many years of safe flying ahead of her…
daniel
A very hearty congratulations to everyone concerned, especially Smudge!
May she have many years of safe flying ahead of her…
daniel
I always wondered about the winch mechanism – was it a single one that could be set to lift at each bomb station, and where was it controlled from?
daniel