In Taylor and Davison’s book ‘Bomber Boys’ there was a passage from a survivor recounting how he saw an officer in RAF uniform hanging from a street lamp, as they were taken through a bombed out town.
I can see how this might have been relatively common.
The book, BTW, is excellent, if rather depressing reading. One interesting passage quotes Churchill saying that a country would never be defeated by ‘terrorism’ – said during WWI about Zeppelin bombings….
DS
Co-ordinating museum visit
Nice to see so many people interested…I was beginning to feel like ‘the only aeroplane enthusiast in the village’ (with apologies to Little Britain) :diablo: .
Bruce, I am happy to co-ordinate:
– would everyone interested like to ‘pm’ me so I can give Bruce an idea of numbers nearer the time?
Cheers
DS
I enjoyed the airshow immensely. It was only spoilt by the fact that I was apparently some kind of magnet to 8 year old boys, who constantly pushed infront of me, shouting ‘Spitfire Spitfire….ack ack ack ack ack ack ack’ every time they saw something with a propellor.
I think I’ll risk the tank bank next time – at least they know what they are photographing 😮
DS
I never knew Steve Young, but the regard with which his memory is held by so many here is quite touching.
My high point was getting inside PA474 at the BBMF. I’m still grinning like a schoolboy. Thanks again to Fluffy et al.
DS
Thanks, I’ll be the one with the Kodak disposables.
DS
Anyone know if the concept Stirling was one- or two-man operation? I think Aero-Monthly had an article on the Stirling a while back, but can’t recall much about the mini one.
If I may be of service….
In Aeroplane Monthly, March 1991, a letter from Hugh Gordon, Yeovil: He sat on two sand bags behind John Lankester-Parker, the pilot of the half-scale Stirling on its maiden flight from Rochester Airport, Sept 19, 1938. His job was to wind down the u/c if the electrics failed! J L-P wore his trilby (as always).
DS
edit: The next letter described the S.31 (later remaned M5) as ‘basically a single seater, but an observer could be carried. The u/c can only be retracted (sic) by the observer.
There was an article on the M5 in the Feb 1991 edition of Aeroplane Monthly but I cannot find it. If anyone has a photocopy I would appreciuate it mor my collection.
I’ll be there. Last years was wonderfull, but even so I was unable to convince any non-forum friends to come along this time.
Last year I was stationed infront of the AAM and had an *almost* great view fo the planes taxying past, but was obstructed by several rows of heads. Any ideas on what time you think I should arrive to get a front row view?
Failing that, I assume the ‘tank bank’ is a bank outside the tank museum? :p Do you allow in people with Box Brownies?
DS
A corporate day? Was it her paying to fly around naked, or did you have to pay her?
:diablo:
DS
2005 – the BBMF proudly takes delivery of new photographic display model
After careful positioning by crane, the new arrival is ready to be viewed:
😀
DS
In the Stirling they sat on paratroop seats or bare metal chairs hastily bolted to the floor. There was quite a bit of room to move around inside the Stirling, behind the main spar, unlike the very cramped Lanc.
Oddly enough there was a short piece on repatriating POWs and concentration camp survivors a few weeks ago on breakfast news. I recognised the Stirling from the rear entry door the passengers were standing by, and made a note of the serial number. Was disappointed to read in my reference book that the particular a/c was apparently SOC in 1944 🙁
DS
“Too low, Too Slow”
My father’s cousin married an American airforce office after the war, and he eventually got *very* high up in the NATO chain of command. His family used to play host to us when we went to the Mildenhall airshows in the 70’s. My defining moment was being taken into his office, surrounded by pictues on the walls, models on the desks, and then being allowed to sit in his bosses chair.
The Boss.
Big red button on the desk!
Well, maybe not that….but I was told he was somebody very important, and it was a BIG desk, US flags behind it, the works! . 😮 Then we went for a walk down a C5 Galaxy.
DS
Thanks for sharing this. A Hurricane with Swastikas…a chilling vision of what might have been…
DS
‘Flying Coffiin’ was used for several a/c, but specifically for the Starfighter, due to its ability to drop out of the sky…..
DS
…and before anyone picks me up on the typo in the thread title, it’s meant to be “and” not “at”…
😉
Looks like you’re well qualified for the job of aviation journalist! A bit like the (senior) author of the News article in this months FP who gives the two ‘Last Corsair’ pilots as being 60 and 61 years old – a bit to young to be WWII pilots methinks 😉
DS
From my reading, I have not found any reference to the Stirling ever being considered for CC duties. Range and ordinance carriage would not have been an issue. The main problems the Stirling encountered in its Bomber Command role was its ceiling limitation (along with bomb load to some extent), due to its impaired wing size. At low level, the Stirling was actually a highly manoeuverable plane, given its size. Hence its role in SOE ops. It was highly versatile – glider towing being a forte as, (unlike other aircraft) it did not ‘stretch’ after having towed a glider!
I suspect that the reason it was overlooked for CC duties was more that it was simply unavailable. Having not exactly ‘excelled’ in BC service, it was being produced for paratroop drops/glider towing (Mk IV) and transport (Mark V) in relatively small numbers compared to the number of Lancs and Halifax’s rolling off the lines. Moreover, there was no Canadian production line – the Mark II was planned, with Wright Cyclone R-2600-ASB engines – but perfomance was no better than the Mk I, so the order was cancelled.
Now, had they gone ahead with the Super Stirling……
🙁
DS