I wonder why russians are building foldable fins R 77 variants if 1 missile is going to be fit in 1 weapon bay

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Oh for crying out loud…

thats what i am asking how many per bay??

but the problem is people here are confusing that 3+3 or 4+4 combination that i am asking for each weapon bay thats not what i am saying.even a blind man can say it is impossible to carry 3 missiles in each bay:highly_amused:

I am saying that combination 3 or 4 is for both the weapons bays in front fuselarge & 3 or 4 for both the weapon bays in rear fuselarge like these pic
see below it’s PSED pic
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For the third time: at present there are TWO launchers in each bay. That is TWO in the front bay and TWO in the aft bay. That means 2+2 = FOUR launchers and consequently, FOUR missiles in total. Not 3+3, 4+4 or 10432+10432.

Third-party 3D models and Photoshopped schematics do not change this fact. Future prospects is a different story, but wild speculation isn’t very popular in this neighbourhood.

2) what’s the possible missile weapon loadout in PAK -FA center fuselarge would it be
3+ 3 combination of 6 bvraam or 4+4 combination of 8 bvaams ?

There are four UVKU launch units in the two bays, meaning four missiles up to the size of the Kh-58UShKE. There is arguably space for a 3+3 loadout of something like fin-folded RVV-AE, but no solid indications of any rail system able to accomodate this at present.

BTW many PAK-FA critics say PAK-FA ‘s rcs is around 0.5 m2 & posted some ridiculous pics to say it’s not stealthy

what’s your view??
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A blast from the past… Note how this is the 23rd thread, that ridiculously amateurish “assessment” has been posted dozens of times, been scrutinised, dissected and thrown in the bin for a multitude of reasons. Nobody wants to go through that again.

Is the right sensor the on that will be fitted beneath the front fuselage?

Uh, huhuh, heh heh heh… It like, goes on top of the end of the spine or something, heh heh heh.
http://russianplanes.net/id116834

Eheh, heh, that was cool.

Now we’re talking. 😀 Judging by the shape it’s going where we all expected it to (duh, I guess).

Any more hints from KnAAZ regarding 50-5 yet? Groomi? I’m getting anxious.

The “Hellduck” was conceived in online “fan circles” and slowly grew in popularity from there. It’s a genuine term of endearment that has made some impact as of late, whether it’s “cool” or not. Compare to Warthog, Aardvark (later became official-ish), Viper etc. These things appear and they catch on, sometimes they’re silly and other times they’re not. All part of it, IMO.

I personally like it. If you don’t, then Fullback always works.

The bigger question is, has actual VVS personnel said anything about it?

The YF-23 then the Pak -Fa, it is strange the Pak -Fa nose is almost similar to the YF-23 nose pure coincidence or have the Sukhoi designers arrived at the same conclusion as the Northrop designers did back in the late 1980s.

I don’t think they’re similar at all. Both are rather “slender”, but that’s about it. The YF-23’s nose had some pretty promiment chines around it at an angled rather than a smooth profile, a much pointier radome etc.

And the “kill mark” on a Soviet ship after a Viggen crashed during an unsuccesful interception. Apparantly ships handle water better than supersonic jets…
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_j1ml1fHnXhQ/S9tKLgtlO-I/AAAAAAAAAeA/ymOgA6CLbPs/s1600/viggen.jpg

That’s not a “kill mark”, that’s a silhouette ID aid for deck crew* and the ship that photo’s from is the Sovremenny-class destroyer Bespokoynyy, not the Kirov-class heavy missile cruiser Pyotr Velikiy that Göran Carlssons Viggen crashed next do during photo reconnaissance in 1996.

*Commonly encountered patrol aircraft, that is: Tornado, Hawker Siddeley Nimrod, SH 37 Viggen, P-3 Orion and some Harrier. Their visual characteristics have been exaggerated for quick ID.

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