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  • in reply to: A puzzling Hurricane photograph. #1392094
    Bert van Dalen
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    More on the Dutch Hurri’s
    Two sources sindicate different types delivered to RNEth EIAF.
    Some report Mk’1 and others MkII /IIb’s.
    Attached piture (source Dutch Institute for Maritime History) shows a three bladed HurriII or IIb being transported over the road on Java with a tropical filter.

    If the Lockheed is not a Hudson but Lodestar, the Dutch connection becomes more evident, as these were delivered together with P40E’s in US camouflage and markings of which i have pics as well.

    in reply to: A puzzling Hurricane photograph. #1392274
    Bert van Dalen
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    Your Hurri a Dutch Hurri?

    Additional info:
    In 1941, the Dutch East Indies Air Force ordered twelve Hurricanes, but they were not delivered because there was a shortage of powerplants. In late 1941, a total of 24 Hurricane Mk Is on route to Singapore for the Royal Air Force (RAF) were delivered in crates to Tjililitan at Jave for use by tbe Dutch East Indies Air Force. They had no radio equipment and no oxygen equipment. On 16 February 1942, they were flown to Kalidjati, where they were probably serialed (1 to 24?) and a red – white – blue flag was painted on the tail at Ngoro. Of the two squadrons of the Java Air Force, one squadron defended Batavia.

    Operational Use
    Two Hurricanes were destroyed during training. The Hurricane flown by pilot Hamming touched the ground with the propellor and the other, flown by sergeant Hermans, crashed during landing. On 21 February 1942, eight Hurricanes were surprised during their landing at Kalidjati by Japanese Nakajima Ki.43 Hayabusa (Oscar) fighters. Sergeant Jacobs turned up in a bombcrater, but two of the Hurricanes escaped to Tjikampek. On 26 February 1942, the last seven Hurricanes flew to Ngoro and on 1 March 1942 the Hurricanes attacked the invading Japanese landingcraft at Bantam Bay and Kretan. One Hurricane, flown by lieutenant Bruinler, touched a boat with the propellor, but reached Ngoro safe. Lieutenant Marinus escaped to Soerakarta, but his Hurricane crashed the following morning, whereby the pilot escaped safely. Vaandrig (pilot) Vink flew to Banjoermas. On 9 March 1942, the six remaining Hurricanes were set on fire by their crews at Ngoro.

    Combat Record
    The fighting at the beginning of the war in the Pacific had created a surplus of RAF pilots in the Far East, because many aircraft were lost without their pilots, and there was resentment at the handing over of the Hurricanes to the Dutch, whose pilots were less combat skilled. But, in two weeks, the Dutch Hurricanes destroyed or damaged thirty Japanese aircraft, for the loss of 18 to 20 Hurricanes.
    There are no photographs of the Hurricane in Dutch service.

    Source:
    Ruud Deurenberg, 16 September 2000

    in reply to: A puzzling Hurricane photograph. #1392285
    Bert van Dalen
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    What if this is not Middle east, but East Indies??
    What if this is one of the batch delivered to Java to the Neth EIAF in 1942?
    If so you have solved one of the major Mysteries in the history of NethEIAF, since no pictures are known to exist from Hurricanes in Dutch Service

    Bert

    in reply to: Photographing modelplanes #1395836
    Bert van Dalen
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    As a drunk adult me a my mates tierapped a 1:48 Harvard to a newyears piece of firework. At jan 1st. at 0.10 hours, it lifted from the front yard, made a beautiful roll and half loop and sped accross the street with us watching terrified, seeing it going towards the 1st floor windows of the neighours house , see it miss and explode with a huge bang next to the house.. :diablo:

    in reply to: Photographing modelplanes #1395990
    Bert van Dalen
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    As a kid, We spanned a wire across the lawn from the window and took a shot at the planes with a leadshot airgun 🙂

    in reply to: Wangarratta Airworld Restorations – Great Photos!!! #1396047
    Bert van Dalen
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    very nice to see, and so much to be looking forward to. :rolleyes:

    in reply to: F-16 strafes school!! #2677315
    Bert van Dalen
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    Bert, do you know the story of the F16 engineer who stole one, took it off and then crashed? i read it once in AFM but would like to know the full story.

    True; happened with Belgian AF F16 in 1988 0r 87 in Goose Bay Canada. Some of our squad were there when it happened.

    in reply to: F-16 strafes school!! #2617340
    Bert van Dalen
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    F16 attacks; another example

    I remember when i was a crewchief with 315Sq RNLAF on Twenthe Airbase in 1986-88, that a F16 from 313 Sq lost a practise bomb while getting into the circuit that went into a shopping mall in one of the towns close by.
    It made a nice hole smack in the middle of a concrete tile in the passageway 🙂
    Offcourse the SQ Co and Base Co were not amused, neither were the retailers in the mall. :p

    in reply to: Interesting WWII German aircraft but what is it? #1436334
    Bert van Dalen
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    Yep, Junkers W34 “Bolo”.
    Were also used as target tugs for flak gunnery practise.
    Dunnu why it is called Bolo.

    Bert

    in reply to: Great War time 109 Pic #1436336
    Bert van Dalen
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    cmon guys.. the uhu is fake, the jap is just a model… pay attention! 😡

    in reply to: Zunyder Zee #1437523
    Bert van Dalen
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    Martin already provided you with the list I wanted to post, and Cees is part of the most active and professional group in this field, (to my opinion)

    Bert

    in reply to: Zunyder Zee #1438209
    Bert van Dalen
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    Hi, looking at the Zuider Zee in the Netherlands while writing this..
    As early as 1928 the Zuiderzee was closed off from the North Sea with a dam, and turned into a swee****er basin.
    Today the Zuider Zee consists as the closed off swee****er drain of the Ijssel river, now named Ijsselmeer, and the dregded new land named Flevoland, a new province in the Netherlands. Narrow and long strechted lakes are in open connection with the IJsselmeer around the Flevopolder
    Many recoveries were done in 50’s and 60′ and 70’s after the dredged land of the first the Northwest part , then South western part of the Flevopolder were cultivated for farming and the building of urban area’s Lelystad, Almere and Zeewolde.

    In the nineties the last finds were dine in the waters of the Ijsselmeer. I will look for some internet sites of finds for you later.

    Bert

    in reply to: never before so little was known about one of the few… #1554834
    Bert van Dalen
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    Thanks so far guys, any other suggestions?

    in reply to: Some Hispano Buchon/Bf109 images #1555425
    Bert van Dalen
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    Youre right, I remember now that part of the debate was why they waited so long after being confronted with types like the p51 and p47 that really made a difference.

    in reply to: KNIL Hurricanes ..a REALLY hard contest.. #1555564
    Bert van Dalen
    Participant

    Additional info:
    In 1941, the Dutch East Indies Air Force ordered twelve Hurricanes, but they were not delivered because there was a shortage of powerplants. In late 1941, a total of 24 Hurricane Mk Is on route to Singapore for the Royal Air Force (RAF) were delivered in crates to Tjililitan at Jave for use by tbe Dutch East Indies Air Force. They had no radio equipment and no oxygen equipment. On 16 February 1942, they were flown to Kalidjati, where they were probably serialed (1 to 24?) and a red – white – blue flag was painted on the tail at Ngoro. Of the two squadrons of the Java Air Force, one squadron defended Batavia.

    Operational Use
    Two Hurricanes were destroyed during training. The Hurricane flown by pilot Hamming touched the ground with the propellor and the other, flown by sergeant Hermans, crashed during landing. On 21 February 1942, eight Hurricanes were surprised during their landing at Kalidjati by Japanese Nakajima Ki.43 Hayabusa (Oscar) fighters. Sergeant Jacobs turned up in a bombcrater, but two of the Hurricanes escaped to Tjikampek. On 26 February 1942, the last seven Hurricanes flew to Ngoro and on 1 March 1942 the Hurricanes attacked the invading Japanese landingcraft at Bantam Bay and Kretan. One Hurricane, flown by lieutenant Bruinler, touched a boat with the propellor, but reached Ngoro safe. Lieutenant Marinus escaped to Soerakarta, but his Hurricane crashed the following morning, whereby the pilot escaped safely. Vaandrig (pilot) Vink flew to Banjoermas. On 9 March 1942, the six remaining Hurricanes were set on fire by their crews at Ngoro.

    Combat Record
    The fighting at the beginning of the war in the Pacific had created a surplus of RAF pilots in the Far East, because many aircraft were lost without their pilots, and there was resentment at the handing over of the Hurricanes to the Dutch, whose pilots were less combat skilled. But, in two weeks, the Dutch Hurricanes destroyed or damaged thirty Japanese aircraft, for the loss of 18 to 20 Hurricanes.
    There are no photographs of the Hurricane in Dutch service.

    Source:
    Ruud Deurenberg, 16 September 2000

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