The 11A number is the only one you need. That will identify what it is, but not necessarily what it was fitted to.
This is not an airframe part per se; it is an accessory!
Bruce
Thanks Bruce
It’s interesting you say it’s an accessory, so it’s a bolt on bolt off piece? This would suggest it’s more of a Fighter bomber piece or are all Bomb racks considered an accessory? Even when fitted to Lancaster for example. I bought this as being from a Mosquito from a usually reliable source but the People at Evington looked at it and said definitely not. Will get a picture over tomorrow, it’s in the back of the truck at present and weighs a ton need some help to lift it out. 😮
The airframe code for the Hornet is 26EW, not AWB..
This 26EW code would not appear on the parts in any case, even if it were type specific. Only occasionally would 26EW appear on a stores tag. All Hornet airframe parts take the form:
3F123 for example.
3=type 103
F=fuselage
123=part numberHope this helps.
Thanks the code on the plate is EWB made a typo, will have a good look over it tomorrow to see if I can find any more numbers.
Hi everyone i am pretty new to all this so you might have to bear with me. I am posting some pictures of my dads on going project building his Mk IX spitfire. This is a full scale replica and has been made with alloy skins all hand rivetted as on a real spit. It has been made as a non flyer but he has used orignal drawings to build it so the overall result is like a real spit minus the engine. I am currently in the process of finishing a few minor bits, as over the summer i have finished spraying the wings. We are hoping to launch the spitfire to the public this spring but i have added a few pictures just to show how much time and effort my dad has put in to this and i think it about time he took some credit for his work. It has taken him over 20 years, and here she is back in the summer. Alot more has been done since this but the next time we release some more pics we are hoping she will be finished. The spitfire will also be available for hire after the release in the spring.
Add an original data plate and you would have yourself a real Spitfire. Superb work beats a giant airfix kit hands down.
Hi Graham,
The second plate does have a de Havilland style to it.
What makes you think it is specifically for a Hornet?
What piece of equipment is it fitted to?
Hello David
It is on a bomb rack and apparently the Hornet was caplable of carrying a small bomb load ? the code on it being AWB I thought might have been the Hornet airframe code ie AW for Hornet and B for Broughton. Having had some further advise from another De Haviland expert it seems its not the case so back to square 1.
I found this part number see pic which does not help.
Anyone else find it quite sad that people can list every sortie a pilot flew, every aircraft they flew, intricacies of their uniform, what they ate and even what their dog was called, yet a simple question about the number and composition of groundcrew required to service an aircraft leads to replies littered with ‘I think’ and ‘probably’.
WWII groundcrew (or any groundcrew!) are a sadly neglected part of the war and the lack of information and decent books about them is a quite sad affair.
It is true it seems to be a little studied subject from what I gather as with most thing British including the language there are no hard and fast rules. I am hoping the DVD suggested will fill in all the gaps.
Well the Spitfire is already sooty and Oily from burning av gas and the usual small oil leaks’ not to mention an annoying and seemingly incurable hydraulic leak. Won’t be long until the crew look the same :diablo:
What a superb picture, if it wasnt for the Spitfire this would have to be the most Beautiful Piston fighter of all time!
The relevant rank badges are on this link but NOT to include (3)Senior Aircraftman and (8) WO 2 …as they were not used during WW2
http://www.rafweb.org/Ranks6.htm
rgds baz
ps you will see why the WO rank badges were sometimes called ‘Tate and Lyles’ 😀
Thankyou Baz
Found it bought it should answer allot of questions just need a crew now.:)
Some while back I purchased a DVD of a WW2 vintage info film entitled ‘ Daily Inspection of a Spitfire’, this shows in great detail the daily routine of inspection, refueling, rearming etc. Good deatail of the chaps doing there thing, uniforms etc.
I got mine from a well known internet auction site…search for ‘Spitfire Inspection DVD’ and you should find it,… from a seller in Canada!
Cheers, Chumpy.
Cheers Chumpy
I’ll have a look for that.
The fitter was the engine specialist,so his/her primary responsibility would be maintaining the Engine/Prop/Engine Controls.
The Rigger was/is the Airframe Specialist,his/her primary responsibility would be the Airframe structure,flying controls,hydraulic/pneumatic systems,landing gear,transparencies.
But in reality the 2 tradesmen would have helped each other out as required (as long as they ‘got on’ with each other).I would imagine on most flying units trade demarcation got a little hazy at times especially for the more mundane tasks .
So a minimum turn round team might be 1 Fitter/1 Rigger/2 Armourers (if rearming) and maybe a ‘Fairy’ 😀 if there was a radio problem.When I joined my first sqn on graduation from Halton in 1972 (Rigger) we had fairly recently taken over responsibility for Oxygen systems from the ‘Fairies’ and indeed our Inst (gen) mechanic still topped up the a/c for us every morning,so I am speculating that during WW2 the fairies were responsible for oxygen bottles etc…anybody confirm ??
rgds baz
This is all good stuff, in the B of B film you see a crew chief organising the burning of the lame ducks. Would this chap be in charge of all the ground crew for the whole Squadron? What would be his role and what rank and insignia would he likely to be/wear? Who would he answer to the Squadron Ldr or flt commanders?
Interesting stuff thanks so what would the fitter and rigger be responsible for? As for re-arming and re-fueling how many ground crew would be involved in those operation, I guess its a bit like how long is a piece of string so ball park figure would be good. How was the ammo delivered? was there a specific vehicle or just boxes loaded on any old truck?
Naffi Van sounds like a good plan, did they serve spirits??:diablo:
Looks like the clip that attaches the oxygen mask to the Helmet.
Picture
I quote “Blind drunk & Bu99ered”….. seems petty conslusive I think I can probably talk his associates out of taking action if you were to hand over that handsome Spitfire of yours as compensation ;):diablo: do we have a deal 😀