Easyrider, It was not me who suggested it was all lies in my original post on the article, I merely suggested that it was not very neutral,or objective. You were the one to mention lies.
Perhaps you shoud reread it.

I am facinated by your constant emphasis on Cash’s knighthood, as it could be taken that you believe it will make his work any more reliable, but I am sure this is not what you mean. Is it?

You don’t need to be a whinging pinko, Guardian reading liberal, to understand simple economics.

Genuine question John.

Do you read the Guardian regularly, or have you ever read the Guardian at all?
Are you suggesting that all the people who read it are as quoted above?

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Anything from Bill Cash is likely to be entirely neutral and objective………NOT

And yes I have just read it.

And as for suggesting that an article in any tabloid should be taken as fact until very carefully cross-checked using multiple alternative sources if possible? Please!

Especially that tabloid.

What about the Hundred Years war? More specifically the period between 1429 and 1453.
Whilst Individual campaigns were won by the English, the overall result was the loss of all of the English possessions in France bar Calais.

So a loss then. I recommend Sumption’s four volumes for a thorough analysis.

Regarding the Brexit, it seems that some Brexsists booed BoJo when he suggested an amnesty for illegal immigrants who have been here for more than 12 years. It is a real shame, they seem to be having a few issues keeping on message.:confused:

Mr Johnson said he would be in favour of an amnesty for illegal immigrants who have been living in the UK for more than 12 years. The announcement was reportedly met with booes and shouts of “no” within the hall from members of the audience.

The Conservative politician said in a speech that an amnesty for illegal immigrants would not only be economically beneficial but would be “the humane thing to do.”

From the Independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-illegal-immigrants-immigration-amnesty-eu-referendum-vote-leave-a7090246.html

When arrested by police, he said that he was ‘a political activist’ and there are photos on the net that do indeed look much like him at a Britain First rally in Dewsbury last year.

So to suggest that this was not a politically motivated act of Hate albeit committed by what Many wish to emphasise for their own reasons as a mentally ill loner, may well suit the Right wing press because it is too uncomfortable for them to acknowledge fully.

He may well be mentally ill, indeed it is almost certain, but it was still a hate crime committed by someone whom it is emerging had extreme right wing views, however well hidden to the local community.

It should be being reported as an act of terrorism, for that is what it was. The fact that the perpetrator is a middle aged white man seems to cause people to want to shy away from this.
There is an article in the Independent which explores this phenomenon,
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/why-are-we-so-reluctant-to-label-white-attackers-as-terrorists-a7088991.html

but this is dreadful news. My thoughts are with her family and friends.

This I can agree with. Her poor husband is going to have to explain to their two young childern why mummy isn’t coming home today. Heartbreaking

As to the the rest of your post, well don’t they say two wrongs don’t make a right

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From my viewpoint, nothing changes. I’ve always held to the opinion that what matters is sovereignty, nothing else.

So, for arguments sake, Britain leaves the EU, and the Remainers are correct that it all goes a bit wrong and we plunge deeper into recession, we loose hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs, the money markets up sticks and move to Frankfurt so we loose service jobs, we can’t then pay for all the necessary services etc. etc. it will all be fine because we have the self-determining sovereignty to be poor and fade away from the centre stage. I am not sure everyone would agree with that when they can’t keep themselves fed.

I am sure you will argue that the above won’t happen, but it is a possibility one should consider before making such a statement.