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  • in reply to: General Discussion #270805
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    Right wing press in news bias shocker

    It seems the tories tried to bury a very positive report about how business leaders supported EU membership and all the benefits that it provides the UK economy because it didn’t, as they had hoped, show that there was any evidence Brussels had any excessive power or reach.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/18/tories-covered-up-eu-evidence-conservatives

    In another blow to Dave and Nige, the new Tesco boss has stated that the proposed referendum on the EU is in itself a bad thing for business

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-tesco-chairman-john-allan-slams-tory-plan-for-eu-referendum-10187367.html

    Not surprisingly, neither pieces of news are reported in the Mail or the Telegraph.

    Perhaps equally unsurprising is that neither the Grauniad nor the Indy reported Nige’s pathetic attempts to continue the ‘row’ over the audience in last weeks debate in his piece in the Daily Fail

    in reply to: Interesting News Snippets #1830712
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    Right wing press in news bias shocker

    It seems the tories tried to bury a very positive report about how business leaders supported EU membership and all the benefits that it provides the UK economy because it didn’t, as they had hoped, show that there was any evidence Brussels had any excessive power or reach.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/18/tories-covered-up-eu-evidence-conservatives

    In another blow to Dave and Nige, the new Tesco boss has stated that the proposed referendum on the EU is in itself a bad thing for business

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-tesco-chairman-john-allan-slams-tory-plan-for-eu-referendum-10187367.html

    Not surprisingly, neither pieces of news are reported in the Mail or the Telegraph.

    Perhaps equally unsurprising is that neither the Grauniad nor the Indy reported Nige’s pathetic attempts to continue the ‘row’ over the audience in last weeks debate in his piece in the Daily Fail

    in reply to: General Discussion #271022
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    It could be that the pool of candiates that is the problem, not the selection procedures. If the pool is poor, then however careful the selection, you are still going to end up with poor candidates.

    There is a phrase about polishing that comes to mind

    In my opinion this problem applies to most if not all parties, not just UKIP

    in reply to: Nigel rises again- Is this the second coming? #1830844
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    It could be that the pool of candiates that is the problem, not the selection procedures. If the pool is poor, then however careful the selection, you are still going to end up with poor candidates.

    There is a phrase about polishing that comes to mind

    In my opinion this problem applies to most if not all parties, not just UKIP

    in reply to: General Discussion #271840
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    My point exactly Mike. ( I don’t actually really mean the Parrot bit, the Telegraph is quite critical of some aspects of the Cons election campaign, it was a tongue in cheek comment paraphrasing an earlier post)

    However I think to be accurate the Guardian leader actually supported the Lib Dems at the last election, not the Labour party and Rupert seems to have parted company with Labour as well. The Sun and Times supported the Conservatives in 2010

    http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/may/04/general-election-newspaper-support

    Hence the need to read around the publications to see their spin and try, if possible, to get to the truth without blindly sticking to one or two ‘trusted’ news sources.

    in reply to: Interesting News Snippets #1831278
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    My point exactly Mike. ( I don’t actually really mean the Parrot bit, the Telegraph is quite critical of some aspects of the Cons election campaign, it was a tongue in cheek comment paraphrasing an earlier post)

    However I think to be accurate the Guardian leader actually supported the Lib Dems at the last election, not the Labour party and Rupert seems to have parted company with Labour as well. The Sun and Times supported the Conservatives in 2010

    http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/may/04/general-election-newspaper-support

    Hence the need to read around the publications to see their spin and try, if possible, to get to the truth without blindly sticking to one or two ‘trusted’ news sources.

    in reply to: General Discussion #271951
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    The Mail and the Telegraph are but parrots to the Tory Party Machine.

    I have my personal experience and those of my politically neutral friends, upon which to draw. I have the collective reports on the subject from so many other media sources.

    I’m more than sure that you are as aware as I am of this matter. Your declared political affiliations intervene.*

    *Sorry John to paraphrase, couldn’t help myself. I’ll go and sit on the naughty step till I feel guilty.

    We all have an opinion, they often differ, and we tend to read papers and agree with media outlets that support our own position. I am as guilty of that as the next person. However I do read as widely as I can, and this includes the Telegraph, the Times, the Sunday times, the Independent, the Guardian all regularly, very infrequently the FT and Observer, and, when I want to get a sense of moral outrage to set up my day, the Mail online. I am afraid I am too sensitive to be willing to go and buy a Mail in a shop. However, when I was living with an Aunt for a while a few years ago, I did read the paper copy of the Mail as she took it, and it doesn’t seem to have changed much.

    Whilst the Mail may be a cut above the other tabloids, such as the Sun, The Express etc. which I am afraid I don’t read, it’s standards of reporting and, lets face it, basic use of English, often fall below all the other publications mentioned

    in reply to: Interesting News Snippets #1831294
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    The Mail and the Telegraph are but parrots to the Tory Party Machine.

    I have my personal experience and those of my politically neutral friends, upon which to draw. I have the collective reports on the subject from so many other media sources.

    I’m more than sure that you are as aware as I am of this matter. Your declared political affiliations intervene.*

    *Sorry John to paraphrase, couldn’t help myself. I’ll go and sit on the naughty step till I feel guilty.

    We all have an opinion, they often differ, and we tend to read papers and agree with media outlets that support our own position. I am as guilty of that as the next person. However I do read as widely as I can, and this includes the Telegraph, the Times, the Sunday times, the Independent, the Guardian all regularly, very infrequently the FT and Observer, and, when I want to get a sense of moral outrage to set up my day, the Mail online. I am afraid I am too sensitive to be willing to go and buy a Mail in a shop. However, when I was living with an Aunt for a while a few years ago, I did read the paper copy of the Mail as she took it, and it doesn’t seem to have changed much.

    Whilst the Mail may be a cut above the other tabloids, such as the Sun, The Express etc. which I am afraid I don’t read, it’s standards of reporting and, lets face it, basic use of English, often fall below all the other publications mentioned

    in reply to: General Discussion #271963
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    What makes a newspaper more or less great?

    Accurate reporting would be a big prerequisite. Bothering to check facts out, rather than pinching other’s copy and rehashing it.

    Rather scuppers the Mail in both respects. Just ask JK Rowling about that, she won an aplogy and substantial damages over their failure to check basic facts out.

    A great newspaper would probably be one that won a Pulitzer prize

    Actually, to give them their due, I respect the Mail for their courageous coverage and pressure on the authorities regarding the Stephen Lawrence Killers. But that was some while ago now

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570722/Daily-Mail-page-turning-point-says-mother-Stephen-Lawrence.html

    However, this did not sit well with some of their readers, just check out the comments after the article linked to above.

    in reply to: Interesting News Snippets #1831302
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    What makes a newspaper more or less great?

    Accurate reporting would be a big prerequisite. Bothering to check facts out, rather than pinching other’s copy and rehashing it.

    Rather scuppers the Mail in both respects. Just ask JK Rowling about that, she won an aplogy and substantial damages over their failure to check basic facts out.

    A great newspaper would probably be one that won a Pulitzer prize

    Actually, to give them their due, I respect the Mail for their courageous coverage and pressure on the authorities regarding the Stephen Lawrence Killers. But that was some while ago now

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570722/Daily-Mail-page-turning-point-says-mother-Stephen-Lawrence.html

    However, this did not sit well with some of their readers, just check out the comments after the article linked to above.

    in reply to: General Discussion #272099
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    The sad thing is, if the video hadn’t emerged, he probably would have got away with it.
    The family appeal for calm, I do hope they are listened to.

    trekbuster
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    The sad thing is, if the video hadn’t emerged, he probably would have got away with it.
    The family appeal for calm, I do hope they are listened to.

    in reply to: General Discussion #272109
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    I have my personal experience and those of my politically neutral colleagues in teaching, upon which to draw. I have the collective reports on the subject from so many media sources that comprises an almost non stop flow of information.

    I’m more than sure that you are as aware as I am of this matter. Your declared political affiliations intervene.

    You seem to imply that I am “aware” of indoctrination. You are effectively suggesting that I am lying.

    So, to make my position very clear.

    I have genuinely never seen any indoctrination, ever, indeed all the teachers I know are scrupulous in keeping their own politics out of the job. None of my students knew who I voted for, and indeed asked me on occasion but I would not say as I thought it inappropriate.

    I could say that you have been blinkered by your own prejudices, but since I don’t know what your experiences and media sources are, I would be falling into your own trap, so I won’t say that.

    By the way, I have not declared any political affiliation. Oh, another thing, I am not a member of the NUT either, as you seem to have alluded to in post#267

    I have said who I won’t vote for, but if you recall I have also stated I have yet to decide who to vote for this time. If even I don’t know how I will vote……..

    in reply to: Interesting News Snippets #1831393
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    I have my personal experience and those of my politically neutral colleagues in teaching, upon which to draw. I have the collective reports on the subject from so many media sources that comprises an almost non stop flow of information.

    I’m more than sure that you are as aware as I am of this matter. Your declared political affiliations intervene.

    You seem to imply that I am “aware” of indoctrination. You are effectively suggesting that I am lying.

    So, to make my position very clear.

    I have genuinely never seen any indoctrination, ever, indeed all the teachers I know are scrupulous in keeping their own politics out of the job. None of my students knew who I voted for, and indeed asked me on occasion but I would not say as I thought it inappropriate.

    I could say that you have been blinkered by your own prejudices, but since I don’t know what your experiences and media sources are, I would be falling into your own trap, so I won’t say that.

    By the way, I have not declared any political affiliation. Oh, another thing, I am not a member of the NUT either, as you seem to have alluded to in post#267

    I have said who I won’t vote for, but if you recall I have also stated I have yet to decide who to vote for this time. If even I don’t know how I will vote……..

    in reply to: General Discussion #272233
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    Have you any evidence yourself? Please give examples to support your position. If not,how can you make the assertion in #265?

    Regarding #260 I do not take ‘evidence’ in Newspapers at face value without supporting information. They can so often get things wrong. Whichever paper it is in. Have you seen the Mail’s reporting of the Omaka airshow?
    In this particular case, the the NUT conference, the reporting appeared consistant in a number of different sources, although the emphasis and ‘moral outrage’ that developed from the reports differed considerably in them.

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