trekbusterMost things seem to cause you offence, even my spelling. That annoyed you. Get over it.
No, the only thing that has caused me offence on here was the post to which we have been referring. All the rest of my posts on this thread and the “Nigel ascends” thread apon which we have debated were rational discussion of points about which we disagree, and to be honest are likely to continue to disagree. If you think what you have said on those threads has offended me I fear you are mistaken, so I have nothing to “get over” thanks.
trekbusterMost things seem to cause you offence, even my spelling. That annoyed you. Get over it.
No, the only thing that has caused me offence on here was the post to which we have been referring. All the rest of my posts on this thread and the “Nigel ascends” thread apon which we have debated were rational discussion of points about which we disagree, and to be honest are likely to continue to disagree. If you think what you have said on those threads has offended me I fear you are mistaken, so I have nothing to “get over” thanks.
trekbusterDig just a little and you’ll find something about which to be offended.
If you can’t find something, then just make something up and you’ll feel better.
Gawd’s sake, haven’t you got something better to do – a Brit
I did not make up the word, that was entirely down to your own effort.
To be honest I wasn’t that offended by the use of the word, I’ve heard a lot worse. I was however slightly annoyed that you couldn’t take enough care with the insult to spell it correctly. These things should be done with some style to carry full effect.
Writing the post took me approx. 40 seconds, so in those 40 seconds, no I didn’t have anything better to do.
I was taught as a youngster to challenge casual prejudice whenever I encounter it. How else are people, who at some level don’t undertand they are being offensive however ‘mild’ the comment, to realise what is said may cause offence if repeated.
trekbusterDig just a little and you’ll find something about which to be offended.
If you can’t find something, then just make something up and you’ll feel better.
Gawd’s sake, haven’t you got something better to do – a Brit
I did not make up the word, that was entirely down to your own effort.
To be honest I wasn’t that offended by the use of the word, I’ve heard a lot worse. I was however slightly annoyed that you couldn’t take enough care with the insult to spell it correctly. These things should be done with some style to carry full effect.
Writing the post took me approx. 40 seconds, so in those 40 seconds, no I didn’t have anything better to do.
I was taught as a youngster to challenge casual prejudice whenever I encounter it. How else are people, who at some level don’t undertand they are being offensive however ‘mild’ the comment, to realise what is said may cause offence if repeated.
trekbusterI rather thought the Ities were lacking something in their play.
As a person with some Italian descendants, personally I prefer Azzuri, but I agree the French were better by some margin today.
If you insist using what Collins Dictionary describes as an ‘offensive slang’ word, please spell it correctly! (google is your friend)
trekbusterI rather thought the Ities were lacking something in their play.
As a person with some Italian descendants, personally I prefer Azzuri, but I agree the French were better by some margin today.
If you insist using what Collins Dictionary describes as an ‘offensive slang’ word, please spell it correctly! (google is your friend)
trekbusterSage words from our Beloved Leader -To- Be.
If as expected UKIP have fewer MP’s than the SDLP or even Plaid Crymu why should the conservatives hold out their hand to them, or if they did, allow any significant policy change as a bargaining chip? I suppose adding their very few MP’s to the DUP may add more influence?
trekbusterSage words from our Beloved Leader -To- Be.
If as expected UKIP have fewer MP’s than the SDLP or even Plaid Crymu why should the conservatives hold out their hand to them, or if they did, allow any significant policy change as a bargaining chip? I suppose adding their very few MP’s to the DUP may add more influence?
trekbuster“Yes, I do belong to a Trades Union…”
If I wanted to do your job or similar, would I have to become a member of the Union ?
“legal representation cover “
What is the perceived legal threat ?
No, you don’t have to belong to a union to do the job. Only on annecdotal evidence I would guess fewer than 10% of my work colleagues did not. I am unaware of any job where union membership is a requirement, indeed I believe this would be illegal but I may well be wrong.
Legal representation was essential, roughly equivalent to public liability insurance legal representation most companies have, but needed on an individual basis whilst working with people for whom you have a duty of care. This of course did not abrogate any responsibility one had for these people but it was not uncommon to have false accusations, although it never happened to me in the 30 years I was working in the job.
The other significant reason is to have representation during any redundancy negotiations.
trekbuster“Yes, I do belong to a Trades Union…”
If I wanted to do your job or similar, would I have to become a member of the Union ?
“legal representation cover “
What is the perceived legal threat ?
No, you don’t have to belong to a union to do the job. Only on annecdotal evidence I would guess fewer than 10% of my work colleagues did not. I am unaware of any job where union membership is a requirement, indeed I believe this would be illegal but I may well be wrong.
Legal representation was essential, roughly equivalent to public liability insurance legal representation most companies have, but needed on an individual basis whilst working with people for whom you have a duty of care. This of course did not abrogate any responsibility one had for these people but it was not uncommon to have false accusations, although it never happened to me in the 30 years I was working in the job.
The other significant reason is to have representation during any redundancy negotiations.
trekbusterAre you perhaps a trade unionist or, trades union supporter ?
Yes, I do belong to a Trades Union, in my job I would have been stupid not to be as I gained legal representation cover as part of the package. From the latest statistics approximately 25% of the working population in UK are members of Trades Unions. 45% of professionals are members of Trades Unions
And yes, I do support the trades union movement as a concept, although not the actions of all trades unions.
The union I belong to is not affiliated to any political party, indeed if it had been I would have found another to join.
I am proud to be a member of an organisation that has been in existence for over 145 years promoting and preserving individuals rights, who wouldn’t be?
trekbusterAre you perhaps a trade unionist or, trades union supporter ?
Yes, I do belong to a Trades Union, in my job I would have been stupid not to be as I gained legal representation cover as part of the package. From the latest statistics approximately 25% of the working population in UK are members of Trades Unions. 45% of professionals are members of Trades Unions
And yes, I do support the trades union movement as a concept, although not the actions of all trades unions.
The union I belong to is not affiliated to any political party, indeed if it had been I would have found another to join.
I am proud to be a member of an organisation that has been in existence for over 145 years promoting and preserving individuals rights, who wouldn’t be?
trekbusterJust about everyone I’ve ever spoken too about this subject. I don’t hear anyone supporting non residents getting jobs in preference to residents.
Thank you for supporting my point. As you have pointed out you should have said in the original post ” most people I know……..”
I don’t think many jobs are given in preference to non-residents just because they are ‘foreign’ which could be implied from your point above. I personally would be very much against any such preference if it occured, just as I am uncomfortable with the concept of preferential treatment for british people if less qualified for the job applied for.
Many jobs are given to non residents either because they are better qualified than the britsh people who apply or, as is the case in some lower paid/’boring’ jobs, the only people who apply are from other EU countries. We have a number of fruit farms locally who could not run without the annual influx of young people who are willing to work the long hours. With the proposed ‘British people for British jobs’ what would happen if no one British applies? They would have to be filled by……?
Now, this raises the issue of why young people locally do not wish to do such jobs. Low pay? Raised expectations?
There is clear evidence that people from abroad willing to work for the minimum wage on such jobs keep the pay for all such jobs low. Supply and demand. Should we start forcing british people to take jobs they do not wish to do? Would be happy for your son/daughter/nephew/niece to be told to pick fruit for low wages? The benefits system is working towards this concept.
I don’t know the answer, it is a very complex issue that is unlikely to be solved by simplistic solutions
trekbusterJust about everyone I’ve ever spoken too about this subject. I don’t hear anyone supporting non residents getting jobs in preference to residents.
Thank you for supporting my point. As you have pointed out you should have said in the original post ” most people I know……..”
I don’t think many jobs are given in preference to non-residents just because they are ‘foreign’ which could be implied from your point above. I personally would be very much against any such preference if it occured, just as I am uncomfortable with the concept of preferential treatment for british people if less qualified for the job applied for.
Many jobs are given to non residents either because they are better qualified than the britsh people who apply or, as is the case in some lower paid/’boring’ jobs, the only people who apply are from other EU countries. We have a number of fruit farms locally who could not run without the annual influx of young people who are willing to work the long hours. With the proposed ‘British people for British jobs’ what would happen if no one British applies? They would have to be filled by……?
Now, this raises the issue of why young people locally do not wish to do such jobs. Low pay? Raised expectations?
There is clear evidence that people from abroad willing to work for the minimum wage on such jobs keep the pay for all such jobs low. Supply and demand. Should we start forcing british people to take jobs they do not wish to do? Would be happy for your son/daughter/nephew/niece to be told to pick fruit for low wages? The benefits system is working towards this concept.
I don’t know the answer, it is a very complex issue that is unlikely to be solved by simplistic solutions
trekbusterBy paying the full price, no matter what or where, I shall regard that as a tribute to the illustrious Nigel from us all, especially those contributors who I refer to as the Chuckle Bros.
Oooh, oooh, can I be Barry?
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