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  • in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2361572
    benhongh
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    ah, you got that on that F-16.net thread ah? 😉

    yep, and i was pretty impressed then. Took that figure for granted I admit. Anyone has better source on static margin for the EF?

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2361661
    benhongh
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    I don’t know,
    but If I were to put a bet, somewhere btw 8-10% negative.

    -10% for a static margin isn’t all that fantastic. The EF is said to have -35% subsonic, neutral around Mach 1.4.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2362014
    benhongh
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    I doubt you’ll ever get that figure. The easiest way to estimate is to make a J-20 model yourself, doesn’t have to be super accurate as long as the plan form is representative, then put it in a wind tunnel and find the A/C.

    As for the GC, you can find a reasonable range between the nose gear and main gear.

    Song’s paper on high lift fighter configuration states that “future fighter” would have a longitudinal static margin in the magnitude of (negative) 10% of mean chord. Considering payload variation, a static margin between 15% to -10% is appropriate for modelling.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2362193
    benhongh
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    I cannot understand the importance that some posters are giving to the question of whether or not the J-20 currently flying has a functional weapons bay. Different prototypes of a new aircraft are normally assigned individual roles in the test programme and are fitted out and instrumented accordingly. The first example is normally assigned to aerodynamic work, so carries extensive instrumentation and data recording and/or telemetry equipment for which space, power and cooling has to be found. The area assigned to the weapons bay would be a good candidate.

    The first flying article is usually for flight control system validation. The weapons bay door, like the landing gear doors, are part of the flight control system and greatly affects the vehicle’s aerodynamic characteristics. Although we are waiting for hard evidence, it is reasonable to assume that the weapons bay is in place for testing. Whether there will be any launching mechanisms for weapon deployment testing is another matter.

    The best place to put all the flight test instrument is in nose where the radar would be. Why would a flight control system testing article carry a radar?? After all, placing flight test instruments in place of radar is a common practice. The Americans do it, the Russians do it, and there’s a freaking huge pitot boom extending from J-20’s radom.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2362201
    benhongh
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    Guys, I was wondering whether there is any information available on the J-20 regarding its longitudinal static margin expressed in a percentage of the MAC? Thanks

    I doubt you’ll ever get that figure. The easiest way to estimate is to make a J-20 model yourself, doesn’t have to be super accurate as long as the plan form is representative, then put it in a wind tunnel and find the A/C.

    As for the GC, you can find a reasonable range between the nose gear and main gear.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode XV #2362607
    benhongh
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    So will this be a feature of all F-35, or just F-35B?

    All versions of F-35 will have this same canopy design. The F-35 actually has very poor rear visibility, unlike the F-22. But the helmet mounted display system guarantees situation awareness in all directions much better than eye sight.

    I am surprised they haven’t retrofitted that system on the F-22.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 3 #2362609
    benhongh
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    If it was viable and cost effective to field such a fighter, why hasn’t the UK done so?

    Look at all the X planes the US has made, and those were flying examples. Having a full sized mock-up model does not conclusively demonstration the ability to build and field one or else there would be a hell of a lot more 5th gen designs knocking around.

    My point was that Europe has the technology capacity necessary to produce a 5th gen fighter aircraft. They have chosen not to because the need of it cannot justify the huge cost. The Replica proves that UK is in possession of LO technology. They certainly knows how to build an agile, supercruising airframe (Typhoon). They certainly knows how to build a highly advanced engine (EJ200) and 5th gen avionics. You’ll be delusional if you think they cannot integrate all of those in a single package.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 3 #2362873
    benhongh
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    Do not forget the psychological aspect of it! A new arms race has started, and there will be losers and winners. Unfortunately, the europeans seem to come out as losers out of this one, as there is no concrete 5th Gen fighter on the horizon. What a shame!

    Not having a concrete 5th gen fighter on the horizon doesn’t mean not having the technology to produce one.

    Remember this baby:

    http://www.davidwindle.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/BAESYSREPLICA2small.jpg

    http://www.hitechweb.genezis.eu/stealth4f.files/BAE_replica_3.jpg

    …from 7 years ago?

    Europe will most likely skip 5th gen and go straight to 6th gen UCAV.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode XV #2362880
    benhongh
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    “The forward section is designed to withstand a birdstrike at high speed and low altitude. ”

    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/07/31/215810/flight-test-f-35-simulator-virtual-fighter.html

    I’ll have to take that article with a grain of salt. The fact is, the F-35 does have a single piece canopy, it just comes with a reinforcing bow UNDERNEATH the transparency.

    http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/2/4/821be56f-f1ea-4416-940d-2c546d570434.Large.jpg

    http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/graham-warwick/F-35B%20close.jpg

    You can see the reflection glare continues across that bow, which cannot happen on two-piece canopies.

    in reply to: Hot Dog's F-35 Cyber News Thread #4 (four) YEEEEEE-HAAA!!! #2363642
    benhongh
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    Scooter like the fact that the whole F35 project has met all performance milestones and that the F35B is going to be in service with the USMC in 2012 as planned……
    To date the project is late and over budget, the F35B is the furthest behind the curve and is regullarly slipping backwards.

    which is nothing out of ordinary in the engineering world…

    If you are an engineer and gives an honest estimate at the beginning of a non-trivial project, you might scare away the investor, or the management, or both. If you make an optimistic estimate, you know at some point in the future the project will get delayed and over budget, but you might just get your project going by slowly milking the squirrel.

    benhongh
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    Well original Su-27 without canards has N-001 which weighed 575 Kilograms, Bars from canard MKI was over 600kg. Canardless Su-35 has Irbis, but I have trouble finding any source that actually specifies how much its weight is less than Bars, if at all. Su-35 with canards was supposed to get N-011M, but no way the hefty Irbis-E antenna (there is more to radar weight than just antenna ofc) weighs less.

    In that case I must have mistaken. Apologies. Yet I am still convinced the cancellation of canard has little to do with thrust vectoring. Perhaps it’s structural improvements that leads to significant shift in CG.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 3 #2363679
    benhongh
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    http://paralay.iboards.ru/download/file.php?id=12050&mode=view

    Hmm, some of the superb-finish paint came off apparently, so that forward inlet section moves I guess?

    I don’t seem to be able to connect to iboards.ru…any chance you can attach that picture in a post?

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode XV #2363825
    benhongh
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    Does HMD increase your view angle or informs you about necessary flight informations and for firing the weapons?

    Yes, at least the one for F-35 does all of them.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode XV #2364431
    benhongh
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    Exactly yes:D Even we had seen the tender conditions;) Hope we see it on the bird…

    I’m not fussed about the single piece canopy. It is heavy, and in the age of helmet mounted display it no longer offers much advantage.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 3 #2364439
    benhongh
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    I dig it 😀
    There are only so many ways to build a fighter, especially until we switch rudders for thrust.
    I see similarities between F-22 & Focke Wulf 190, both got a tail for starters

    On another thought, if it is true that the J-20’s canard contributes a significant amount of lift, can we classify J-20 as a bi-plane?

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