moon_light :

This has been debated to death and as far as we know , only 2 systems seems to be capable of passive ranging/passive targeting : Rafale ‘s Spectra and F-22 ‘s ALR-94 (Russian RWRs are still an unknown quantity for most of us) .

Cheers .

how about the F-35 AN/ASQ-239 and F-16E falconedge :p:cool:

That must be hell of an estimate. But estimate from where?

picture , some page ago

Even if we consider that the load on Su-35 is heavier, the powerful engines will asure you the needed thrust.

yep but the su-35 is also heavier = offset the stronger engines

btw, did you guys forget that Rafale like most of the fighters loaded with heavy payload is limited to a max of 5G?

when the load is very heavy , like bomb + lots of fuel tanks

Chinese said Meteor is 160km so it is 160km.

another evident
if you read about it , you may know that MBDA bought R-77M design to make meteor ( and as you already know R-77M is rated as having range = 160 km )
and as said before with equal weight ramjet will have much longer range than normal missiles ( reason = re-read a couple of page before )

It means, being a smaller frame, whatever small/medium stuff you put on Rafale, it sticks out/protrudes/magnifies itself as a huge/large stuff compared to the payload of same size if put on Su-35.

It might look good in photos and videos giving that awesome & fearful feel on the payload carried, but it may not be of that help to the aircraft w.r.t cutting through the fluids. JMT

it true if you put the same amount of payload , but here you put a much heavier load on su-35

so it does not have stealth?. they dont need to say that missile coming after your dual or tri mode seekers. as its inside the body.

it dont have low RCS to the level of NSM , stealth is affected mostly by shaping , you can basically see that , and tri-mode seeker = harder to foil by chaff , flare or ecm …etc
and really what you are trying to say ??