btw what is the range for rvv-bd :confused:

Stealth is not the only solution. There are big pods on Su-34 and EA-18G. so this size of pod matter.

EA-18 is for escort jamming , which mean they never come close to the SAM site but stay from far out of SAM range , use noise jamming to make it harder for SAM to hit strike aircraft that come closer , in case of air to air mission on Su-35 use the same tatic will make you
1- vunerable to HOJ missiles
2- appear to enemy screaming hit me iam here 😎

You can put 4 R-77 between engines in Su-35 and it wont stick out. after launching RVV-BD from wing tips at greater range.
it has pods as given on wing tips. On Rafale anything of substance attach to it sticks out. Su-35 is like MIG-31 and certainly not like Rafale. otherwise whats the point of putting more power than Su-27.

what u mean by stick out :confused:
btw i didn’t know rvv-bd can be carried in wing tip , i thought that place is only for r-73 :rolleyes:

thats the problem. Rafale does not have usefull rcs advantage. There is no electronic pods integral of Rafale design. how much smaller R-77 is compared to the pods.
Every things sticks out from Rafale. and Rafale will be flying at lower altitudes than Su-35. the same disadvantage smaller AWACS.

rafale have internal ecm , rafale only fly 2 km lower than su-35 ( and we dont even know if su-35 can reach that altitude with 5 rvv-bd or not )
your point about awacs is ridiculous , they clearly have much more radar , processing power compared to a fighter like su-35

Su-35 rcs is not much bigger than Rafale when both are loaded with Meteor class AAMs. I am excluding possibility of fuel tanks.
Su-35 has twice the engine power of Rafale and fly at highter altudes.
Small AWACS like Erieye, E-2, Wedgetail does not bring that much to interms of power and rcs will be multiple times Su-35.

really ?
su-35 empty is 3 m2 , rafale empty is 0.1 m2 , we dont know how much meteor rcs is but it seem much smaller than rvv-bd
su-35 altitude is only 2 km higher (and we not even sure if it can reach that altitude with rvv-bd
su-35 also twice the weight of rafale
your point about small awacs is nonsense , they clearly have much much more space for electric equipment and power compared to fighter like su-35

that space is for consoles and operators.

stop trolling , come on you yourself understand that AWACs have much greater radar , processing power ,the consoles are basically computer that it self show how much greater processing power of AWACs is compared to normal fighter , and why you think AWACs need alot of crew if not to process the information that it can have from it’s radar 😎

AWACS also have bigger RCS, slower, lower altitude flying. so not necessary it will detect low rcs target at range greater than the low rcs target powerfull rardar.

this only true if you have very low RCS like F-22 or F-35 while Su-35 have RCS ways bigger than that

Thats why Su-35 carries 5 RVV-BD compared to 10 R-77SD. RVV-BD is 50% lighter than Kh-31 and Su-35 carries 6 Kh-31.

it can carry 6 KH-31 but when it carry 6 KH-31 it’s performance will also be reduced greatly ( even the F-16 can carry max load of 18 mk-82 , but that doesnot mean it’s performance will not be reduced with small bomb , missiles , yes i do agree that the bigger the fighter is , the less it be affected by the same load weight but again RVV-BD is 2 times heavier than Meteor )