That doesn’t make much sense. You don’t purportedly design a fighter worse than you really can, especially if you have know-how to do it. All aircraft will have stealth + situation awareness + modern missiles in the future, having a fast, agile and maneuvrable platform will always be of great importance.

Otherwise you could simply rework the B-2A to a huge A-A missile carrier bearing an oversized AESA radar, and SuperEODAS, SuperEOTS, SuperDIRCM and SuperEW systems which would, according to your logic, make the bird the ultimate airspace cleaner. There is a reason why a project like that is not in the making.

because of cost , and it not that important it like a solider having a sniper and a knife at the same time :diablo: yeah it cooler that way but not necessary
about the b-2 , it because it super super super expensive , a b-2 is over 1 billions dollar , it can’t operate from carrier , can’t take off vertically , can’t fly supersonic , extremely high maintain cost , also need bigger airfield ..etc is that enough not to make such a project ?

Its 510kg for export version. you didnot showed anything but merely comparing missiles from different time lines that are some time decades apart. your hopelessly trying to reduce Su-35 speed when it carries RVV-BD when much heavier ASM it can launch at mach 1.5

you want me to show you what ?????????????????????????????????
already explained like a billion times why meteor have longer range than r-77sd , i also suggest that there may be other reasons that i dont know , i already show you many different missiles with equal size and weight but have different range ..etc as i said before aerodynamic and rocket science is complicated , neither me or you can have enough knowledge to say with that size that missiles can’t have that range ..etc
i compare missile at different time , yes so what ?? it mean that different solution was made to improve the range ..etc the same may be MBDA have different solution for their missiles who the hell know what the solution is ???
last where did it say su-35 can fly at mach 1.5 with 4 KH-31 ?

your randomly comparing missiles without putting specific purpose.
AAM does not need that much variation. It is unlikely that Metor gets 50% more range than R-77SD with identical weight. certainly not from Raflale in comprision with Su-35. Ground or ship launched missiles dont have this altutde/speed from platform differences.

i already told you meteor use ramjet engine while R-77 dont have engine and, the range of missiles is depend on many factor , just because they have identical weight doesnot mean they will have equal range ( another example : Mica vs R 550 Magic )
and also with 10 missiles the su-35 will slow down to mach 1.7 reduce in acceleration , range , maneuver ..etc ( if you carry RVV-BD it will be even worse because the missiles is much bigger )

PAC-3 short range is against billistic missiles. AIM-120 is much newer missile than AIM-7.

rim-67er vs rim-156 , essm vs hawk , sea dart mod 0 vs sea dart mod 2 ..etc , as said before missile range is affected by many factor that we dont know :p bigger doesnot equal longer range

so Meteor has 160km?. that is about 1.5 times R-77SD. which is 190kg missile.
RVV-BD is export restricted to 200km. there is other uses beside fighter aircraft like cruise missiles/support aircraft for BD etc.

one have engine , the other dont , and again bigger doesnot equal longer range
Ex : PAC-3 vs ESSM or AIM-7 vs AIM-120 ..etc

He obviously meant, there are no structure limitations, only fuel limitations at M2.0…
Smarten up dude.

oh i see

Possibly new stations 11 and 12 will behave similar to 3,4 and R-77 should cause a lot less drag than R-27RE. R-73 on 5,6,7,8 and R-77s on 3,4,11,12 is very possible. If ECM pods are used it would be 6 missiles.

RVV-BD is bigger than R-77 => more likely caused more drag , also i think the future ramjet R-77 will also caused more drag ?

22,6m long 46 ton MiG-31M with 0,67 T/W can reach higher speed than either. How does that fit in? You are neglecting dozens of factors that contribute to top speed. If you really want to compare Su-27 and F-15 in terms of top speed;
Su-27 can sustain M2.15 top speed indefinately. M2.15 to M2.35 is temporary and restricted to 5 minutes.
F-15C can sustain M2.25 top speed indefinately. M2.25 to M2.5 is temporary and restricted to 1 minutes.

BOTH aircraft are limited due to overheating of cockpit glass.

wait you mean F-15C and su-27 can sustain more than mach 2 ?:confused: for how long ?

you still not getting the point. that in old days AIM-9L could barely pull 25 to 30g. and now medium range BVR missiles pull 40 to 50 g. so that lines are blured. Medium range AAM are now effective in WVR combat as long as new fighters have nose pointing ability. so there is very much less need for extreme agility that decreases the range.

nose pointing isnot even needed as we have jhmcs and hobs missiles :rolleyes: