All TuAF F-4E and F-4E/2020 Terminator squadrons are now performing A/G missions…We are not ganna see Aim-7 Sparrow armed Turkish F-4Es anymore…TuAF gives F-16s more A/A roles than A/G after all F-4Es squadrons converted to A/G duties…

Interesting. 🙂

Can you tell me more about those F-4E/2020 ? I know they have been retrofited by Israel, but I don’t know with what equipment, and I was sure they still performed in Air defense missions with Medium range AAM (I though the TuAF used AMAAM missile ?)… :confused:
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I guess the best way to put it is like this: the Mirage 2000D and Mirage 2000NK2 is similar in role as the F-15E Strike Eagle, only it just isn’t as capable. At least, that’s the way I look at it.

Depends by what you mean by “capable”. if you mean that the f-15 has better range and payload, then you are clearly right, the 2000 is a small aircraft as I already said.
But in terms of accuracy of bombing and all weather/night attack the 2000D is excellent and surely as capable as any dedicated modern strike aircraft….
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18×250 kg :confused: I didn’t know that…even though I saw a lot of pic..
Merlock do You have pic. of this configuration?

Sadly, no. I saw it in an old magazine from the early 90’s, it probably still lies somewhere in my old room at my parents’. But since I moved to another town, I won’t be abble to find it for now…

I still remember the configuration, though:
One 4 bombs “rail” at the centerline (under the fudelage- 4).
Two 4 bombs “rails” at each inboard wing (8).
Ons bomb at each four fuselage hardpoint (4)
Two bombs at each outboard wing (2).

Total: 18 x 250 kg bombs.
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Wow the more I read and hear from you guys the less impressed I am with what the 2000D can actually carry.

The 2000 can carry various weapon types, but it appears the French Air Forces uses only a small part of what’s available. The HAF Mirage 2000 mk2 can actually carry the Exocet missile, for example, though the FAF doesn’t use it. The 2000 can carry the Durandal bomb, though the FAF doesn’t use it. The 2000 can carry a varied amount of gun pods (20mm and 30mm), rocket pods, LGBs of diverse size, though the FAF doesn’t use them. the 2000 can use many recon equipments for reco mission, though (again) the FAF doesn’t use it, because reco is the F-1s job… see my point ?

Second, the Mirage 2000 is a SMALL aircraft. As compared to its size I think it behaves well. I remember a photo where a 2000 carries up to 18 x 250 kg bombs… that’s a maximum with no place left, but still… if you want a “bombs truck”, you’d better check the Tornado or other “big” plane…
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Yep! I know the pivture is small, but it displays a Mirage 2000 with no less than six AASM bombs:

http://www.defense.gouv.fr/portal_repository/114623538__0002/image_1126010991108662/getData
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Well… I read in an old Air&Cosmos issue that the AASM’s integration on the 2000D encountered “unexpected aerodinamic problems” that could threaten the whole integration program, up to the point of canceling it. I’m glad to see it finally hasn’t been the case…

From memory: a full loaded 18-shot SNEB pod weights 185 kg, while a full loaded 36-shot pod weights 270 kg…

About the unguided bombs, I think the 125kg, 250kg and 400kg bombs are not in service any more, so the FAF uses the US 500 lbs bombs (Mk-82 ?).

Oh, and can Apache and SCALP not be carried on the inboard underwing pylons?

I have pictures from the early 90s showing a single-seat Mirage 2000 carrying an Apache missile on the inboard underwing pylon. But i think the current 2000D’s inboard pylons are not “wired” for the Apache/Scalp missile…
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Hmmmmm can you imagine a fleet consisting of FB-23’s and Switchblades?

Watching the movie “Stealth” can really help to imagine that! 😀
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Don’t know specific weight for jetfuel

It varies (don’t ask me why!) from 0.755kg/litre to 0.840kg/litre, I usually keep an average 0,8 kg/litre…

So, if NotOnlyaSwede says that the gripen carries 2268 kg of fuel, we can estimate its tanks capacity between 2700 litres (2268/.84) and 3004 litres (2268/.755), with an average 2835 litres (2268/.8)…

For comparison – F-16 can carry 3,104 kg (6,846 lb).

Yes. I read once that a F-16A had a 4060 litres of internal capacity..
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