Say what?
Yeah seconded :confused:
What with all the UCLASS deck landings and development work, it really makes you wonder what thought the MOD are having with regard to UAV operations of the CVFs.
The USN are initially looking at UAVs for cargo and A2A refueling whilst they are happy with their manned strike assets.
Are the MOD just concentrating on F35/Merlin operations or do we think there is any serious work on what can support them?
I imagine what they are thinking is something along the lines of: “I wish we had the money to do that” while doing this :apologetic:
They’re not ugly … 😉
Yeah I think the correct term is fugly 😉
From memory that bottom picture looks a lot like the BMT Venator.
With this in mind should the UK look to build 8 new cheap corvettes. If we were to start with a off the shelf design like the Fassmer OPV-90 fit it with a standard British naval gun and 2×*30mm DS30M automated guns, then remove the 2 front boat houses and replace them with 20 surface to air vertical launch systems and maybe 4 to 8 Harpoon missiles these 8 ship could take over the home waters defence , safeguarding the Caribbean and anti-piracy leaving the new type 26 & 45’s to undertake there main tasks
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+1 to these being too well armed.
To do what you’re asking you need a cheap and cheerful OPV with decent endurance, no missile armament, just some 30/20mm cannons and a decent sized hanger.
You could make these even cheaper to run by purchasing some Schiebel S-100 Camcoptors for them
I know it’s been around for a few years, they did have a full pdf on the website originally but it looks like it’s been removed.
So whilst the Telemos based project has stalled in favour of something multinational, the Anglo/French UCAV is still going strong and seems to have weathered calls to widen the participation for now:
I think it’s more reasonable to say Telemos stalled because of a lack of Government commitment to timetables/funding, I think so called multinational effort is just Dassault getting in bed with EADS and Alenia, the lack of Government/procreastination backing still appears to be still the issue.
Hummm… Didn’t UK bought its first two C-17 trough a (really) expensive leasing contract ?
It was the first 3, we leased them, then decided to buy them, this basically meant we paid double the actual cost of the aircraft.
My neck of the woods and I never heard a thing (loud music).
PFI deals in general are awful value for the taxpayer.
Its hard to think serious corruption is not raising its ugly head when PFIs are around.
I tend to think its stupidity born from trying to deceive the public about levels of Government debt.
If Politicians thought about the consequences of their actions in the long term they wouldn’t be so keen to use PFI deals all the bloody time, unfortunately in the UK they only really make strategic decisions based on short term public/media opinion.
I think the future RAF fleet, with several C-17s & a larger number of A400M, will be an excellent mix. I wouldn’t mind seeing a few smaller aircraft as well, for small intra-theatre loads for which it would be a waste to use an A400M, but apart from that I can’t criticise it.
Quite, I think the only thing wrong with the RAF future transport fleet will be a lack of booms on our tankers. As for the smaller aircraft: retain the 146s? Maybe look to buy a few more on the cheap?
I confirm my doubts about any effective use of the AW-609 on the QE, as expressed in my previous message.
About an AEW version I don’t think that this tiny bird could accommodate the load and energy requirements for the Vigilance system.Maybe it is not clear how small is the 609.
Yes, I’ve looked at it’s dimensions and wax take off weight compared to a AW101 and it doesn’t fare too well.
Regardless of the threat, there aren’t any Harriers to buy. The USMC just bought the RAF’s entire stock for spares. They’re needed to keep the fleet in the air: they won’t be sold on, & the fact that they were bought shows how improbable it is that any of the existing fleet will be considered surplus.
Nor does anyone else have any for sale.
Get over it, mate. These childish fantasies are a waste of bandwidth. All they achieve is to make you look like a fool – and maybe a troll.
BTW, the radar on those Skyhawks is reported to be a downgraded version of the AN/APG-66v2. It’s not exactly state of the art nowadays.
You could flog the Sea Harriers that have been kept in storage for yonks/used for deck handling training etc by the FAA, they will be knackered and not airworthy, would take several kings ransoms to put into service again, probably wouldn’t be sold with Blue Vixen either so would need to buy another radar for them and spend some money on weapons integration too.
It would be hellishly expensive for what would be a very marginal capability but it would be in keeping with the idea of buying an expensive to run ship in desperate need of a refit…………..
The first picture is a drawing of an export LHD that CSOC were offering at some recent naval expos. Very mistral esque yes?
The other two are fan art.
Knew I’d seen that last picture before somewhere:
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I’ve definitely seen that the yellow model aircraft before, maybe not in model form though, although I can’t remember where?