UK wants a helmet mounting cueing system for the Tornado GR4 (due to retire in a few years):
http://aviationweek.com/defense/uk-wants-helmet-mounted-cueing-system-tornado
Must be compatible with all the weapons the GR4 will use including ASRAAM.
That sounds like an exercise in flushing money down the toilet.
kev 99 is that policy or your very sensible assumption?
Assumption, if something else comes into the mix it will be well into the future as there is no money for anything new right now.
Do you have any idea what they’ll be using for COD?
It will be a mix of Merlin and Chinook.
Telemos looks to be dead and buried.
The fact that we have gone STOVL for our carriers more or less confirmed that the RN are happy with a rotary AEW system, as there are no current fixed wing alternatives that do not require a catapuilt and arrestor gear. If the RN ever wanted to go no rotary after the STOVL/CATABAR decision was made then they were going to have to start being innovative and the RN doesn’t have the budget for that.
Hi All,
kev 99,
The problem I have with this is how Fox said we spent £3.8 billion then cancelled for nine aircraft, yet here we are a few years down the line and hey presto we now have 12 aircraft for £2 billion the sums seem a bit cockeyed to me unless it’s because this is off the shelf purchasing against developing our own upgrade of a tested platform ??Geoff.
The original programme was for 21 aircraft, it kept getting revised downwards because the programme was a disaster, BAE had downplayed the risk involved in the programme and had made numerous errors throughout the manufacturing process such as making wings that didn’t fit the aircraft.
The programme should never have existed in the form that it did; after checking out the existing airframes and doing it’s initial risk assessment for the project BAE should have told the government that it didn’t want to compete for the tender. Small chance of them turning money down even though the reputation of BAE has suffered as a result.
Hi All,
I don’t know if this has been in the news during the year but the Sun On Sunday reporting that the RAF is ordering 12 Boeing P-8 Poseidon’s in a £2 billion pound deal (£1 billion more than predicted but still less than the £3.8 billion for MR4 That Liam Fox said had been spent and still not working correctly.) for our maritime needs. Apparently over the last few years foreign subs have been detected more and more??? Does this really make any sense after the review scrapped the MR4 programme that was close to completion I mean I admit I haven’t a clue what the outlay was originally on upgrading the tried and tested nimrod but surely it could have been done for this amount and safeguard British jobs as a bonus or am I wrong ??
Can I play devils advocate and allege was this the plan all along and that’s why Liam Fox scrapped because he was offered them as replacements and just had to go along with leaving the country without maritime protection other than to call on other NATO country’s till the situation about the scrapping was over I mean the scrapping was done much the same way as TSR2 even behind screens to prevent prying eyes your thoughts please. :confused:Geoff.
Nothing about the MRA4 programme makes any sense, accept the conclusion that it was one giant cluster**** and we should never have started it in the first place.
Ever since the MRA4 programme was cancelled there have been rumours that they still did not meant requirements and BAE needed yet more money to get them to work.
Unlikely, but it is more logical than mistral deal.
That’s a matter of opinion, and not one that I hold.
Don’t ask me why, although it’s probably down to money. All the sources mentioning numbers that I have seen are consistently saying 12.
It’s looking like Typhoon will only have 4 hard points able to carry Brimstone though.
Yes it is, but the UK is already tied into a programme with the French that the RAF will most likely have all the UK input too. I just can’t see a requirement to launch from sea will find their way into the UCAV programme if the RAF are the service branch with the majority of input.
Have they placed an order for torpedoes for these yet?
Yeah, but it does look cool.
Sounds like a big, ambitious and very expensive ship class, probably more like a Kirov replacement than a true destroyer.
Ahem, the real story:
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