Not sure if you are aware of whats going on in the States……but Sen McCain has stated he will introduce a bill that would kill the program. Not sure how much support he would have, but………the US is broke. Deffence WILL be cut……….just a matter of how much.http://www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/pentagon-cutting-f-35-would-be-complicated-costly-20110808

So I was right he was making those figures up thanks.

yeah, because a hypothetical CVN-78 air wing in 2015 consisting of 2 squads of hornets, 2 squads of super hornets, 4 growlers, 4 hawkeyes, a couple greyhounds, and a half dozen or so seahawks is so inadequate compared against the air wings that the carriers of other world navies will be able to put to sea.

Or even compared to the rest of the USA’s CVNs. :confused:

Agreed, for shore bombardment. Not a good anti-ship missile though, because it’d be too easy to shoot down.

Just bung some Harpoons on T45 if AShMs are thought necessary. FNBNW, innit?

I don’t really see much of a need for AShM on T45 anyway 😎

I wouldn’t believe everything you read, I strongly suspect the writer’s just looking for a story that doesn’t really exist.

Anyway with the F/A-18F BII you would get comparable capability to a Typhoon for substantially less money. Not sure where the F-35C will end up price wise but you will get more bang with LO ect.

Maybe but then you have to fork out for the integration of UK weapons, very little of which are already cleared for SH.

Not that I’m defending Naval Typhoon it’s a stupid idea.

I dont know what YOU were reading. But US Navy CVs were first brought up by CVF fanboys such as yourself. I used the 😀 emotacon to make a little fun of a fine model. And I did have a feeling that the merest HINT of criticism against the sacred CVF would bring the bloodhounds running!:diablo: Feel foolish yet? And yes, the USN uses “real carriers”. They are not frigates, are they?

Stop backtracking, you said something deliberately inflammatory, borderline trolling in fact and you’re comments have been shown up as such.

A hybrid/compromise. Not to put it down, but thats what it is.

So the only countries that have built proper aircraft carriers are the US then? All others were a compromise?

Pretty much, but I think they’ve been playing these games for most of the 2000s, it’s only becoming so obvious now because the illusion of having all the money for these big projects has been exposed for the bull**** that it has been since the 1998 SDR.