I’m pretty sure that D K Brown in his book “Rebuilding the Royal navy” stated that an Exocet would have similar stopping power to a 12″ shell, which does certainly contradict what I’ve heard elsewhere.
So what? The carrier escorts weren’t carrying any Exocets then? or just a handful?
I’m pretty sure Israeli has cooled because of the cost, haven’t they transferred interest to MEKO corvettes now?
In all these price variants, they’ld still be buying 1980 era designed ship with 1980s equipment ment in all key areas (i.e. no modifications). In reality, you’ld be looking at a combination of finishing unfinished parts + refurbish finished parts + modernizing the vessel. That price tag will have little to do with the original price tage, in whole or in part, indexed or not.
Thoroughly agree, that money would be far better spent building new ships with up to date systems, but it seems the Russians want to spend their scarce resources continually updating old Soviet era ships and completing ships whose construction started 20-30 years ago.
What kev said. BTW, Club has absolutely nothing to do with ballistic missiles, it’s a family of cruise missiles.
Yes the reporter clearly doesn’t know the difference.
I don’t think it’s that there’s anything in the missile itself, more the fact that it’s a significant weapon system made to look like a shipping container, are there any other companies out there that are marketing cruise missile systems that can be mounted covertly on merchant ships, trains and lorries?
Bangladeshi Navy deal secures 100 Tyne shipyard jobs
A multimillion-pound deal with the Bangladeshi Navy has secured 100 jobs at a Tyneside shipyard.
A&P Tyne will refit two offshore patrol vessels, guaranteeing three months of work for employees and local sub-contractors.
As part of the contract, specialist staff from the yard will also train 66 Bangladeshi naval crew members to operate the ships.
Work will begin in May when the vessels are towed to the firm’s Hebburn yard.
Falkland Islands
Stewart Boak, managing director of A&P, said: “It is a tribute to all the partners involved that we now have the opportunity to carry out the work, securing employment for up to 100 staff and sub-contractors in the face of the recession.”
The Castle Class patrol vessels were built in Aberdeen and first entered service with the Royal Navy in 1982, protecting the fishing fleets and oil and gas fields in the North Sea.
They also did long-term service guarding the Falkland Islands after the war, before being sold to the Bangladeshi government.
The project will include the overhaul of the vessels’ engines and an upgrade of crew accommodation.
Anyone got any pictures of the radars to go with the S-300 launchers? I thought it more than a little odd that I’ve only seen the launchers so far.
just always look a little dated and hap hazard to me – nothing to do with its perfromance or anything – purely aesthetics
I tend to think that Russian helicopters aren’t particularly handsome beasts, particularly when compared to their Western counterparts.
Everything on Navy Matters dates back several years, the webmaster has obviously become clinically depressed with the status quo…
Stern ramp, mission bay, twin hangar oh dear, has this been torn directly from page two of “Cancelling defence projects 101”?
The stuff I’m talking about goes back years before the last update in 2008.
Good find – the block diagram is more a way of roughing out what is needed to fit into the hull, and how much hull you are likely to need to contain it, than any kind of finished-article design piece. Whats interesting in that is the elements that have been deemed ‘desireable’ to be fit into the hull. I wonder if this is the ‘downselected’ block diagram or one of a number of similar images with various possible loudout permutations.
The thing thats jumped out on me here, and maybe I’m being clinically thick, but why are we looking at a mission-bay on C1?. It was my thinking that C1 was the ASW/GP warfighter and the patrol hull ‘stabilisation combattant’, that requires the mission bay, was the C2?.
Seeing the vessel in these images has a towed array installation and the mission bay are we now looking at the merging of C1 and C2 requirements into a single hull?. Back to square one with FSC or what???.
I’ve seen a lot of people talk on forums about mission bays on C2s but AFAIK it’s always been destined for C1, there’s stuff on Navy Matters about it dating back several years.
Check these C1 images out
How did you come across those? They don’t seem to resemble any of the images that have been seen before and they seem rather on the large and deluxe side to stand any reasonable chance of being ordered.
Steam catapuilts most definitely do not require a nuclear power plant.
As I pointed out, this is not just repalcing outdated and worn equipment. If Oman wanted to simply replace the capability they are losing with the Jags they could have
a) Gone for a Jag upgrade
b) More F-16s
c) Half the number of TyphoonsAll of the above would have been more then adequate to replace the Jags
My point is (again), this is a massive upgrade in capability.
a) You can only upgrade equipment for so long before it needs replacing.
b) Swerve has already answered the point about more F16s, additionally I’d say many countries around the world are looking to replace their F16s, Typhoons are better and will be competitive for a longer period of time, there’s nothing wrong with future proofing when purchasing aircraft.
c) Who are you or I to state how many aircraft the RAFO thinks it needs? valid points about the size of the country and the area of the world it finds itself in have already been raised and you say these aren’t valid? and you’re only counter is the rather flawed argument that its some sort of gift?
Oman doesn’t owe the UK and BAE anything beyond the realms of the usual politics of defence contracts and international relations, and quite frankly this is not really any different than any other arms deal in that respect.
Perhaps the same hold BAE has over Saudia Arabia?
Britain and Oman still maintain vry close military ties, perhaps this is Oman’s “payment” for that support?
The hold a major defence supplier has over it’s clients, that’s the only hold BAE has over Saudia Arabia, even that is somewhat flimsy since they can just decide to buy eveything from the US if they choose.
Britain and Oman may have close military ties, lots of other coutnries do as well, so what? It’s no different from any other alliance and there are political considerations to all sales in the defence Industry, what you stated still doesn’t address the need to replace outdated and worn out equipment.