Reel in the melodrama, have a look at the threa don the issue on warships1…. Lewis Page has a history of sticking the boot into any surface combatant that isn’t an aircraft carrier, like Max Hastings he believes the whole concept of destroyers and frigates to be outmoded.

This article is a gleeful take on a single test failure. The fact that the PAAMs system has suceeded in every test up until this one says that the system is fine, test schedules make room for possible problems… this changes nothing.

This is after all the reason why weapons get tested. Problems occur in new weapons and old, fixes get worked on, etc, etc. This isn’t a huge deal but Lewis Page who has been openly critical of the PAAMS programme (and any thing else the MOD does) for years has seized upon this with gleeful abandon and spun it out as total failure.

No i do not and I will tell you why.

If you go back a few pages Swerve among others said that written agreements on this matter are probably unlikely, ie. you will not have a case in any court because of that. He said that to counter sferrins argument to go to court if they feel the terms are violated.

This is what Swerve Wrote ” You don’t get it, do you?

This is an intergovernmental agreement. It isn’t a contract. Lawyers are irrelevant. “

If there are no written agreements it shows you were wrong and naive in blindly trusting Americans thats all.

Swerve did not say there was no written agreement, he said there was no contract.

does any one else thing that for 30mill its a ffing steal?

Yes.

To be honest I think it would be sensible to buy more A400M to replace C130J as a second order, as long as the the aircraft works out of course.

Just want to make it clear, 90inFIRST posted that not me. I am not confused as to what LHA-6 is & is not.

Calm down dude its only a forum. Post edited.

That can’t be right? 10 years to build a frigate? I would of thought that these slow build programmes were behind the Russians by now?

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^Complete non story, I believe all of those ‘stunts’ were all training exercises, plus its fabulous PR for the armed forces.

You want forego purchase of F35 and navalise Typhoon as a means of saving money? BAE have already looked at ways of navalising Typhoon, the common belief is that this would be a more expensive option.

RN going for CATOBAR on its carriers would probably mean standing up additional FAA squadrons.

F35 useless aircraft? Whatever gave you that idea?