Nah if it looks like that’s going to happen we’ll have to tell team complex weapons to give it an additional capability, perhaps sub strategic nuclear strike. We can’t have a successful procurement of British built equipment now can we, what would we have left to moan about?
Seriously though, i’m excited that we’ve finally found something we seem to do really well by global standards without cocking up.
What was that role mentioned for a modified Starstreak? I want to wow my neighbour tomorrow with my knowledge (he runs the Starstreak project team)
Swerve’s post has a nice link that tells you all you need to know:cool:
LMM (using Starstreak components, but apparently much cheaper) is being offered for FASGW (Light). Descriptions are all here (Word documents) –
http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/site/ref/scripts/EN_Press-info_287.htmlWildcat might also have the 50kg weapon, which seems to be based on Brimstone.
I worry about the Team Complex Weapons stuff. Re-using technology, designing for commonality, striving for low cost, planning for upgrades – why haven’t these people been fired for their breaches of tradition?
Does make you wonder how they got past the interview:p
On a serious note though I just hope the funding is there for these projects to be realised and for continued investment in the future, it sounds like a good team with some very sound project management. It would be a shame if what sounds like good work wasn’t allowed to come to fruition.
It’s particularly encouraging that a lot of the stuff in the pipeline has export potential.
A curse on double posts.
Yes, but as Jonesy says, it could be being put forward. The MCM demonstration fits the role.
Yep certainly would, just read all of the available blurb on it and it does sound very capable. The only concern’s I have about it are down to cost and the telescopic hanger; anyone got any idea how durable this would be?
To replace the Puma and Sea King I would like to see between 24 and 36 Merlins bought to equip 3 RN Squadrons and bring both RAF squadrons up to full strength. I would like to see the AW149 as well but given to the Army to replace the Lynx AH9 so around 32 for 2 Regiments each of 2 AW149 Squadrons and 1 Wildcat squadron. 1 Squadron of Wildcats would go the the RM.
Maybe a wish list but surely someone has got to finally see the light in HMG and/or the MoD!
By the way what if any are the plans for armament on the Wildcats?
For RN Wildcat will have Torpedoes (presumably Stingrays unless something else comes along), FASGW Heavy (probably Sea Skua 2) and FASGW Light (don’t think its got a name yet).
http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/site/ref/scripts/siteFO_contenu.php?lang=EN&noeu_id=285&page_id=459
Don’t know about the Army variant.
Among the highlights of that article –
C1 expected to enter service 2020.
The new medium range radar being bought for T23 will end up on C1, & maybe C2.
FLAADS will be fitted first to T23, then C1.
10 C1 & 8 C2.A video (CGI, of course) of CAMM firings from BMTs proposed Venator minor surface combatant (a C3 option?).
http://www.bmtdsl.co.uk/Documents%20&%20Resources/?/188/2954/2954
And the MCM configuration –
http://www.bmtdsl.co.uk/Documents%20&%20Resources/?/188/2713/2713
Interesting videos anyone else think the venator looks a little expensive for C3?
The nice brightly painted yellow things with wheels seem to be doing okay;)
You’re preaching to the choir
I seem to be doing a lot of this lately:o
On the up side though, i’ve just heard that initial gate for FSC will be sometime this year. If only they slipped 2 more AAW’s in I’d be a happy guy.
That’s what the article I posted says, I’d love it if the got the 2 extra’s T45s, without a new Government with a radical new investment in defence I don’t see how this is possible.
I tend to agree with what a few people have said here its more than likely going to be AW149, although I’d rather it was Merlins the MOD might be scared off by the price.
The T45 article is scary though, 5 of the six T45’s have to available at all times to cover the RN’s current AAW requirements. CAMM article is also good.
Yeah pretty ridiculous requirement for the T45s, really need more………..
An article on FSC can be found here:
I have to say IF it turns out anything like the graphics in the article C1 looks very much like a warmed over T23.
Personally I would say for the sake of conformitty with the existing fleet it makes a great deal more sense to purchase Merlins to replace the Puma’s and Seakings.
Maybe I should rent the box out? Anyone else want a go::cool:
As Al said, you’re preaching to the choir with that one.
I often wonder why they haven’t tried to increase sub manufacturing capability here. When demand outstrips in industry, you expand your manufacturing capability, that’s the normal thing to do in industry. Clearly we need more SSNs than we can produce in the time frame required and we also need to build 4 new SSBNs (no I won’t accept 3, I don’t care what the govt. might say, we can’t assure continuous at sea deterrence with 3, especially if the French keep ramming the damn things), and it’s like the workforce in Barrow is that spoilt for choice so how hard could expanding capability be?
On top of that, i’ve wondered whether Plymouth could be used to bolster the sub manufacturing capability. It has the biggest dockyard in Western Europe and does all the refit work for the sub fleet so at least some of the expertise and gear necessary is there already. And they’re going to have free space pretty soon with the frigates leaving.
Yes I know I got off the soap box at lunchtime;)
To be honest I think our industrial capacity would probably fit demand just fine if it weren’t for the big gap between the building of the Vanguards and Astute.
You might be onto something with Plymouth but the necessary skills for SSN production would still be in short supply, engineers qualified for nuclear work are a very scarce resource and their skills will be in even more demand once the Government starts building their new nuclear power stations.
You’re right of course.
Re: Barrow the figures I posted earlier maybe a little on the misleading side as I have no idea what how many employee’s BAE needs, but the reports persist regarding a lack of qualified personnel.