A very good idea coach.This is what I meant.That is a flying wing taken 1 step further,by incorporating a central section a lift body.That is a much better design than the early flying wings,which were just a pair of wings.However,flying discs can not be dismissed,as they have existed & flown well for most of the last century.Drag was not a problem,as they were designed with a thin,wing shape profile.Do a search online about German,American & British flying discs.You should be able to find photo’s,& then you will see what I mean.

Flying disc design is the best,as it can be built around the engines,cabin,flight deck & flaps.Also,they don’t all need to rely on conventional air flow for lift,& so can be much smaller than airplanes;reducing drag & weight.

Wow!Don’t be so sensitive! Surely you can understand the point about it being forced on people publicly? Maybe not.The point is,it should not be forced.If people want to have a “silence”,they can.I am NOT objecting to that! But it should be left to individuals to decide if they want to remember with a silence or not.
There should not be this complaining by people about others who do not join in.

Its the idea that some people EXPECT others to join in that is objectionable! Is that really so hard to understand?

That would be THEIR INDIVIDUAL CHOICE if they observed a “silence” for 9/11 ! I only object to the selfishness of TELLING people that they have to join a “silence” & the cry baby whinging that happens when people excersise their RIGHT not to “remember” events in THAT PARTICULAR way!

Well nermal,those “chances” are wrong! I know about the world wars,I studied them.I don’t object to people who were involved in the wars remembering about it. What I object to,is the annual ritual made out of everyone elses lives being interrupted so that the remembering of some is FORCED on to everyone else & disrupts the public lives of people who either have nothing to do with it or object to those wars! Very insensitive!

That “remembrance day” IS mostly old fogeys! Its a fact! I have nothing against them being nostalgic for their war (younger) days,but why does it have to be forced on everyone (not just in public places),whether they want it or not? Surely its a matter of individual choice whether or not people want to make a public show of thinking about the wars of the past? Its bad enough it takes over the TV & radio schedule & interrupts normal viewing,but y does it have to be forced on everyone in public places as well? I remember at secondary school,they interrupted our lesson & teacher TOLD everyone to “get up for the minute silence”. (in those days,it was still a 1 minute silence!).Totally ignoring our rights as individuals to decide whether we want to make a show of it by standing up,or just observing the silence anyway! & totally failing to remind us that it was not compulsory to stand.
Since when do school kids ever worry about things like war ceremonies? & totally ignoring us as individuals,who hold individual opinions.Individual opinions like pacifist opinions & who don’t agree with publicly celebrating wars; especially wars that involve mass murder of civilians & celebrating defeats of opressed peoples.Hence,I excersised MY RIGHT not to be forced into public celebrations of wars & thought about wars in my own private time,NOT on my school work time!

No,didn’t know there was a required “silence”.What time was it? Would not have made much difference,as I was alone yesterday,so I didn’t have a chance 2 be “silent” from talking!
This recreational grief is going too far.It used to be a “1 minute silence”,then it was upped to “2 minute silence”,now its suddenly a “3 minute silence”???!! Who says? y is it increased? What next? A “5 minute silence”?
It used to be a “silence” just for the nostalgic old fogeys on “remembrance day” in November.Now its a “silence” no less than DEMANDED from the public for any chance they can get.
What started this morbid death obsession?

From that list David Bowie’s “Heroes” is the best,followed by “Golden brown” by the Stranglers.Also,je t’aime from the 60’s.CHAMONE,thats fab.I’ve always laughed when I hear that,its so weird! Also,reminds of that TV advert with 2 snails going at it it,while je t’aime record plays. SOOO funny!