Now, how exactly would investigators know those fine differences between warheads ?
I find this a little far fetched, I guess besides Almaz engineers and real world operators (read officers) no one knows
I don`t think there is an accesible database updated with that kind deep technical info……
Because Almaz-Antey provided that information to the Dutch Safety Board. Do a Control F search for bow-tie in the report.
http://cdn.onderzoeksraad.nl/documents/report-mh17-crash-en.pdf
The 9N314M warhead according to data from Almaz-Antey has the Bow-tie fragments
The 9N314 warhead according to data from Almaz-Antey has no Bow-tie fragments.
Bow-tie fragments were recovered from the body of the Captain of MH17 and also from the cockpit.
Cubic, Irregular and Bow-tie warhead fragments were all recovered from human remains.
Strangely the Russians can’t work out where the Bow-tie fragments come from ????
If it wasn’t such a tragedy it would be a farce. So just what are the Russian hinting at here? Of course they are leaving it very vague but it suggests that the bow-tie fragments were planted. An absolutely ridiculous suggestion but it diverts attention and blame away from direct Russian involvement.
This is not the first time I have spent several hours gathering information in order to make what might have been a useful contribution to a thread that was running with a high signal-to-noise ratio, only to find that it had been locked down = I had wasted my time.
Don’t let the info go to waste.
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/565993-mh17-update.html
Metabunk also have a few threads running with detailed analysis
https://www.metabunk.org/almaz-anteys-live-buk-explosion-tests.t6903/
The SA-11 was Ukrainian. Russia doesn’t use that model anymore. So it could only have been taken from the Ukrainian regime (assuming it was the rebels),
The Russian claims are a bit of a red herring. It is designed for I guess a Russian audience. To suggest or hint that Russia doesn’t have access to or use 9M38M1 is irresponsible non-sense.
The company also said that the last missile of this type was produced in the Soviet Union in 1986, that its life span is 25 years including all prolongations, and that all missiles of this type were decommissioned from the Russian Army in 2011.
Despite this claim the Russian Army was still using the 9M38M1s. Many of these early types are used for training and test launches. 9M38M1s were still being fired in 2014 and 2015. Even launches were recorded and available on Russian forces TV in 2015!
9M38M1 being used by Russian forces during 2014. You’ll see a mixture of training rounds and live. Yes they are actually firing them at Telemba! You can see the dates on the screens at 2:13 (19th March 2014).
http://www.rg.ru/2015/06/02/antey-site-anons.html
Also available on Russian TV.
9M38M1 in 2015
Russian forces TV
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201503250808-igb3.htm
9M38M1 being transported during 2014 Belgorod, Russia.
9M38M1 catching fire in Chita during the Victory Parade in 2015.
The claim is dangled like a red herring but in reality the 9M38M1 used to down MH17 could easily have come direct from a Russian source.
Cruise missiles flying over Northern Iraq.
Cruise missile trails and targets hit in Syria.
Bellingcat have been doing some analysis on the geolocation of the videos released by the Russian MoD.
the question should be: how come that after two years of bombing there are any fixed targets left?
Remember that the Russians are hitting every faction in Syria and labelling them IS/ISIL/ISIS. How do you know that they are not just bouncing rubble in regards to IS fixed targets for effect? By now IS will have learned to put their high value command and control/HQs and other equipment into highly populated areas knowing that the strict rules of engagement and collateral damage risk will put them off the target list. Certainly the Russians are claiming that IS are moving equipment close to Mosques.
https://www.rt.com/news/317811-isis-moves-military-hardware/
why are they not wearing any G Suites ?
You have to take into consideration the macho thing/peer pressure within the deployment and VVS in general. It looks good for publicity shots in comparison to US/NATO pilots in full gear.
RBK-500-SPBE-D
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=755_1443992329
http://artofwar.ru/img/w/waleckij_o_w/humanitariandeminingpart2/rbk-1.jpg
Some analysis on the munition at following link. Images of one of the unexploded munitions on the ground in Syria.

Red Star is back on the Su-24s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=31&v=BLz0wtbkg1M
Hmm. :31, Su-30SM with covered up weaponry on the pylons. Wonder what it is.
You can see the same aircraft with close-ups of the covers over the weaponry in the following video. It just looks like covers over standard air-to-air missiles for dust/sand protection? There is also large covers of the same colour over the intakes.
But I came here to ask another question … How concerned does Russia really seem to be about a U.S./NATO strike on the Latakia base? On the one hand, they seem to have brought some serious air defenses. On the other hand, all the Russian aircraft seem to be lined up in a line. Crew quarters seem bunched up too. Wouldn’t they be dispersed if Russia considered an attack even remotely likely? Or are they that confident in the air defenses?
Just curious.
It would be negligence if they didn’t consider all possibilities and is why they deployed Su-30SM and ground based air defences. Of course they are not remotely considering a NATO/US attack. The thinking behind it would be base protection against such threats as hi-jacked airliners or if IS ever managed to get a captured Syrian aircraft running to use against the base in a suicide mission. They have just covered all options hence the deployed air defences. Put yourself in the shoes of the military commander in charge of this deployment? Would you be happy just to rely on Syrian air defences?
Some folks on a french website claim that 6 Su30SM went to intercept 4 Israeli F15I coming in towards Syria from the sea.
Any credence to that? Are there even 6 Su30SM in theater?
Nic
No. It is called conspiracy people jumping on the bandwagon with inflated stories. Surely you understand why they do it?
This is the BS source.
Those things were not dropped from any aircraft, Russian or otherwise.
Part of Smerch MLRS
http://rogueadventurer.com/2014/02/16/9m55k-cargo-rockets-and-9n235-submunitions-in-syria/
Spin it?. Aircrafts are noisy for picking individuals that can disperse. It’s not big static target. It’s very inefficient and expensive of fighting wars. The best is to create large loyal militia that can surround area to create meat grinder. Than at very last moment introduce airpower. Otherwise even Saudis will find out too many airframe hours against houtis and not enough airforce left for next war.
Yes you are spinning it despite Putin stating that Russian air power and ground troops will not be involved in combat. What part of “no combat” don’t you understand? Yes Putin has sanctioned the deployment and made the chess move, but he won’t be willing to have the body bags coming home from involvement in direct combat. No MLRS, no artillery strikes, and no air power strikes. Think of the consequences after making the UN statement and an aircraft is lost over IS or rebel held territory either through malfunction or shoot down? Yes he keep putting in the caveat of “nothing is ruled out” but is he willing to risk aircrew or troops being killed or captured?
Don’t bring every political statement here. Russia only consider a legal airstrike as an airstrike. I still think majority of strikes will be done with long range MLRS and artillery as they more effective. airplanes make too much noise and slow.
LOL! Not going your way so you have to spin it! Good job you are not in charge of anything military with statements such as “airplanes make too much noise and slow” 🙂
Russia has no plans for now to deploy combat troops in Syria, President Vladimir Putin said on Sunday, addressing U.S. concerns about a Russian military build-up.
In an interview with U.S. television networks recorded ahead of a meeting with U.S. President Barack Obama, Putin said the aim of Russia’s military presence in Syria was to support the government of President Bashar al-Assad against terrorist groups.
“Russia will not take part in any field operations on the territory of Syria or in other states; at least, we do not plan it for now,” he said in a transcript of the interview with U.S. television networks CBS and PBS released by the Kremlin.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/09/27/uk-mideast-crisis-putin-usa-idUKKCN0RR14R20150927