also as to why a Twinstar has appeared on the military side, plush travel for the big-wig’s ??
as to the Mil’s perhaps destined for a warmer climate ?? it seem’s the all singing, all dancing western type helo seems affected by a bit of sand !!!!!!!!!!
The Twinstar can be fitted out for surveillance.
http://globaldownlink.com/DiamondTwinStarAircraft.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2005/12/20/203695/da42-opale-takes-off.html
TJ
So why was XH558 up here in yorkshire yesterday ? when she should have been going south.
XH558 went north to overfly a funeral as a tribute to a former Vulcan crew chief. I expect that it would also have been used as a training/currency flight for the crew. Apparently she went over Ripon, RAF Scampton and Northampton on her route south.
TJ
TEEJ
Point 23 of the released statement from the NATO Summit in Bucharest in April this year:
NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO.
http://www.nato.int/docu/pr/2008/p08-049e.html
The Russians, with events like the scuttling of the Georgian Combattante missile boat a couple of days back are now past any semblence of justifying this a peace-keeping support ops in Ossetia. That they are now disarming a neighbouring sovereign state is quite clear and, in my opinion, does warrant some form of response. NATO’s statement above is clear statement of intent and would, IMO, be a sizeable ruler over Russia’s knuckles.
Point noted, but the response won’t be by any direct confrontation. The risk of escalation is far too high. There is also the issue of when Georgia will be granted NATO membership and if every member will agree after recent events. It is obviously being followed very closely by the Kremlin.
The issue of checkpoints could be negotiated away by the establishment of a buffer zone with an international or EUFOR peacekeeping force. Possibly something that the Russians are wanting or seeking to happen? With the buffer zones on the Georgian side secured by a peacekeeping force the Russians can simply withdraw to the disputed regions and it is essentially game set and match for the Russians.
TJ
Thanks, Vulcan903.
Thanks for the update, Smiler!
Cheers
TJ
I think you will find Waddington does not operate on Sundays where as Brize is 24/7. Long way for the crew to get to there aircraft!
Fully aware of that, but the current rumour on the TVOC forums is that she will remain at Brize until the end of September at least. The plan is to operate out of Brize for all her upcoming airshow commitments until then.
TJ
Some guy talking about Clacton on the radio this morning said they have a suprize or two lined up…
Could possibly be a B-52 flyby? Dawlish Carnival Airshow would have had a B-2 Spirit flyby, but missed out by one day.
TJ
Why Brize Norton? Thought she would be based at Waddington?
Is she hangared cos I couldnt see when we drove past the other day.
I have no idea why she is moving from Waddington to Brize. She was located in 5 Hangar at Waddington.
Flight scheduled for tomorrow. Estimated Time of Departure from Waddington – 1320L. Estimated Time of Arrival Brize Norton – 1500L
TJ
Are you sure about North Korea operating swing-wing Fitters? Never heard that before, reportedly they have just some Su-7s.
What about Vietnam buying some surplus Polish Su-22, there was some news a while back. Anyone know more details?
The North Koreans only operated Su-7s. They were still very much part of the inventory at least up until 2001. They were very well known to the U.S. int analysts based in South Korea. Based at Koksan alongside MiG-21s.
Freedom of Information USMC handbook indicating Fitter As in NK service.
http://www.dia.mil/publicaffairs/Foia/nkor.pdf
TJ
Looks like Turkey waived the Montreux Convention prohibition on armed transit by outsiders.
U.S. vessels have been going into the Black Sea for decades now. Some on Freedom of Navigation exercises, port visits etc. I remember well the 1988 incident involving USS Yorktown and the Russian Navy. Things certainly got a bit heated as the Yorktown sat off the Soviet coast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USS_Yorktown_collision.jpg
The Russians had been informed that NATO vessels would enter the Black Sea on scheduled exercises. The Russians Defence Ministry announced this last week.
Canadian involvement in Operation Sextant.
http://www.dnd.ca/site/Community/MapleLeaf/article_e.asp?id=4588
http://www.cefcom.forces.gc.ca/site/ops/sextant/index_e.asp
TJ
I want to hear from the Russians on this thread that are supporting The incursion into Georgia proper. I can understand and even accept Russian military presence in the disputed areas, but how can continued Russian presence in Georgia proper be justified in any way?
Justified or not. Under these circumstances who is going to challenge them? No U.S. administration is going to directly order U.S. forces to engage Russian forces and certainly not in the case of Georgia. If Russia wants temporary or even permanent checkpoints then who is going to evict them? It really is a game of chess and Russia holds all the key pieces.
TJ
Will XH558 be at Clacton Airshow tommorow?
No. XH558 is due to leave RAF Waddington on Friday to go down to RAF Brize Norton. The plan is to operate XH558 out of Brize Norton until at least the end of September.
TJ
I had a spin around the web. The images came from the Georgian Interior ministry. They were released along with all the other SRBM debris images that have appeared before. If these were already pre-conflict images (ie from Kapustin Yar, etc) then I think that the Georgian Interior Ministry would have been rumbled by now?
Too big for the board, so I’ll just post the links 9M723 images.
http://www.police.ge/_downloads/12082008106.jpg
http://www.police.ge/_downloads/12082008105.jpg
http://www.police.ge/_downloads/12082008104.jpg
http://www.police.ge/_downloads/12082008103.jpg
TJ
Yep, these shots have been circulating around the Russian internet since a couple of days already. No one knows for sure when and where they were taken – could be Georgia, could be Kapustin Yar – I’m not an expert for floral identification, but the vegetation is basically the same in both places.
However, I doubt that it pictures anything in Georgia proper – these parts would normally fall on Russian territory when fired at, let’s say, Poti. Corroborated by the crack patterns (high vertical velocity fall, horizontal velocity negligible). I doubt it proves anything.
Thanks for the reply. I was thinking that they might have been taken by a journalist. I haven’t seen them used or accredited to any photographer or media outlet. As you say it is hard to know for sure.
TJ
Apologies if these have been poster before.
Iskander



TJ
No, that is no the case.
It is still the case that “51 missile strikes that left craters less than 100 yards,” an obvious sign that the Russians unsuccessfully targeted the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline.
This link is from your own blog:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/08/11/cnbp111.xml
You forgot to quote the next paragraph
‘A BP spokesman said that, after thorough checks, the company had “disclosed no bombing in the vicinity of the BTC line”.’
Do you honestly think that the Russians couldn’t destroy the pipeline if they wanted to? They targeted it all those times, as claimed, and still couldn’t hit it? Do you not think that something doesn’t quite add up?
TJ