Still amazed as to how such a display is possible in such a fast jet with no FBW. Anyone care to offer any explanations.
Hydraulics?
Has anyone done a breakdown of just how much the B version is estimated to have cost the program in time and money?
I’ve read that it has basically limited the size of the other variants (as the B was constrained by elevator size of some Allied carriers). If there’s any truth to that, it would presumably be a bigger issue than the money cost (as you’re getting a less capable platform with less growth options for more money).
MiG-31 got five (5) times more fuel than F-106, yet F-106 got twice the range
Twice the range? On internal fuel? Care to share some numbers as the ones readily available don’t seem to indicate something of the sort..
In any case, the MiG-31 had turbofan engines which are less fuel efficient at altitude, but in general are more fuel efficient than turbojets at low altitudes which was an improvement requirement over the MiG-25. And the MiG had to haul those heavy long range missiles compared to those useless Falcons..
Anyone know if this is normal routine?
Hardly, given that they don’t operate the type 😉
Poland does, though, and AFAIK the MiG-29 engines are known to be quite smokey.
i dont know exactly how powerful the transmitting power of data link is what i know is aircraft can guide their missiles by datalinks all the way to target, if the data link is powerful enough for the receiver antenna on missiles to received and use the information, the RWR should be able to detect it too ( of course background noise could be a problem, but i guess they can get around that with better software to find some characteristics of data link that background noise doesn’t have) , i dont think they would spend money and time to make stealth datalinks if it doesn’t bring any benefits
The RWR systems nominally cover certain bands used by radars AFAIK so IMHO it’s not a given that they can receive datalink signals without modification (i.e. possible addition of various antennas to cover different datalink type frequencies which is not a simple task). When you have a datalink system installed, it has the required equipment set to receive and transmit such data and knows exactly which frequencies to listen to (e.g. if there is some frequency hopping method added, etc.), while the RWR system might not so it’s not as simple as “if datalink system can receive it, so can the RWR”.
Please excuse my ignorance, how is running a few head-to-head scenarios in Command: MANO in any way indicative of real-life performance? Even if we presume their simulation models are highly complex, the relevant platform data (e.g. F-35, T-50) is pretty much educated guesswork and that’s without even going into the AI models.
And FYI ijozic if it was Tu-95MS that crashed (and not Tu-142) then that Tu-95MS is newever than many F-16 and F-15’s. Tu-95MS was produced from early 80’s to early 90’s and most of the MS’ that are operational are probably from late 80’s. They aren’t nearly as old as people like to think they are.
I was pointing out that during their flight operations time when the funds were rather scarce (as I presumed 90’s-early 2000’s were regarded by TR1), the whole fleet was much younger than it is now (i.e. by 15-20 years plus their age at the time) in the context of recent frequent accidents.
There was no type or age reference in my post, so I honestly have no idea what’s this point you’re trying to make over my post.
These crashes have nothing to do with the defense budget being 3 or 4 or 5 % of GDP. Tu-95s were flying regularly for a number of years now, including when the defense budget was considerably lower than today.
But, they were also considerably younger back then..
Top speed of mach 2.5 (about one mach faster than the F35), range on internal fuel of 2500nm (about twice that of the F35) etc. As n interceptor and striker I think is is fenomenal.
Interceptor? IIRC, those TF30 engines were more suitable lower altitudes and they were pretty lousy on higher altitudes (like the engines of the Tornado) which you’d expect from an interceptor. Granted, both the F-14A and Tornado F3 were still put into service as interceptors with those engines, but still..
Ka-52K with Kh-35 and Kh-38.
So, what’s the story with the Kh-35 missiles being presented next to Ka-52’s all the time? IIRC, I’ve read that the development of the centimeter radar for Ka-52K supposedly hasn’t even been started yet so Kh-35 doesn’t make much sense.
Even if you were correct and weapons cost were included (which I doubt, personally)
This older Janes piece put the operating cost of the Super Hornet at $11,000 which is a 50% increase on the F-16’s $7000. The F-35 estimates are rather high, though.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2902637/posts
Everything is relative.. And MiG-29 is surely a costly bird to fly… but there are civilian folks who can afford to fly one.. even Su-27.. why don’t they fly F-16s, then? AMARC seems to be full of spare airframes.. My 0.02
I don’t understand this part as I thought AMARC planes and parts are not available to private operators? Besides, there’s the added ‘cool’ factor of having a famed Soviet fighter compared to widespread F-16’s.
The difference between a single and a twin-engined design is exaggerated, in reality it is relatively marginal. Compare the F-16D and F-15E. I’d expect the Super Hornet falling somewhere in between. The F-35, however will be very close to the F-22, maybe even more expensive..
These seem to be wartime numbers from a specific theater it seems, so they might include the weapons too?; I’ve had peacetime operating cost in mind. But, you might be right on the engine count – I’ve found some article on the Polish F-16’s (not sure how trustworthy it is) and there it was stated that for them the operating cost of the MiG-29 was around $5500 per hour, while the F-16 was at $7000 which surprised me as the 29’s are getting long in the tooth (they did also mention that the MiG-21 cost was almost 10 times less than the 29).
http://theaviationist.com/2015/01/27/polish-f-16-combat-ready/
Also, high launch speed is certainly a big advantage when the target is in front of the aircraft. If not, it can be a downside forcing the missile to trace a larger turning radius. Which is primarily why WVRAAMs (Mach 2.5-3) have lower peak velocities than BVRAAMs (Mach 4+).
And here I thought the peak speed is lower because of the smaller engine and less fuel and thus having the motor burning for less time. Quite the contrary, I’d expect the WVR missiles to normally reach the peak speed faster as they are launched from rails, smaller and the engines to be optimized for that.
The SH is not much bigger, IMHO. They are actually in the same weight class. And the SH is definitely cheaper to operate..
We’re talking about the F-35A which is much closer to the F-16 in size (length and wingspan) than to Super Hornet, but OK, it’s significantly heavier so perhaps that point is moot, granted.
I haven’t really studied the operating costs, but I’m curious what you base them on. A quick search shows they are aiming the F-35A operating cost to be at around 10% over the F-16 costs: http://aviationweek.com/defense/f-35a-cost-flying-hour-exceeds-f-16-10
At the same time, Super Hornet has two engines which usually raises the operating costs compared to single engine planes. I don’t know what the numbers are, but I’d wager they’re noticeably higher than the F-16 ones.
I accept the politics, but they could have had Super Hornet if they needed to buy American.
Super Hornet? It’s not in the same class (e.g. it’s much bigger and has twin engines so higher operating cost) and I just don’t see the value which would justify the cost of upgrading to it from e.g. an F-16 MLU given that it’s also slower and has a shorter range. I’ll admit that I’m strongly biased against it, though.
Who other than the UK/Israel/US is actually going to need the stealth? Japan/South Korea might think that one day the Stealth will help them, but countries like Denmark, Holland, Norway, Belgium (are they buying I lose track?), Turkey etc are not your first day of war crowd and will just as likely hang stuff from the wings as need full up stealth.
I don’t think we can decide what their specific needs are. The upgrade program costs a lot and it’s probably supposed to last for another e.g. 30+ years like e.g. the F-16’s did.